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John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby skb12172 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:59 pm

Calls for repeal of 2nd. The comments are illuminating. Many admitting that confiscation is their true goal. Enjoy the civil war, jackasses.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/o ... l?referer=
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Vonz90 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:09 pm

Well, I am glad that he is calling for repeal instead of pretending it does not mean what it clearly means.

Electorally, it would actually be a boon if the Left started calling for the 2nd to be repealed. However, for our culture, I would much rather the Left made piece withe 2nd and work to fix the real problems (not that I expect it, but I would in fact prefer that it happened.)

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Postby Vonz90 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:16 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03 ... hands.html

The current climate seems to be drawing a lot of them from cover.

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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby randy » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:36 pm

It there is any opinion more useless than that of a retired Supreme Court Justice, I'm hard pressed to think of it.

I did find it amusing that he basically admitted that the originalist reading of the Second is correct.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby skb12172 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:40 pm

Vonz90 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/27/nc-sheriff-hopeful-apologizes-for-joke-about-taking-guns-away-from-peoples-cold-bare-hands.html

The current climate seems to be drawing a lot of them from cover.

I love it when these assholes become their own, worst enemy.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby D5CAV » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:38 pm

Vonz90 wrote:The current climate seems to be drawing a lot of them from cover.
Yup.

Georgia legislator says she won't "confiscate guns", yet the legislation she sponsors has language that Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) will "seize guns": https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03- ... seize-them

1 million of the gun owners in "Blue State" Pennsylvania keep their firearms skills high enough to spend the money for an annual hunting license. These gun owners harvest 350,000 deer every year in a democrat controlled state.

I figure Georgia has similar demographics.

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Postby Weetabix » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:06 am

It's interesting to think back on the compliance rate with the CT ban and the later thing in CO (?). Why do people think this will be different?

That whole thing about "forgetting history" seems to have a shorter span than before.
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Postby Jered » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:48 am

At least he wants to go about it the right way.

He's wrong, but, he's wrong in the right way. That's to say that I believe his position that people should have the right to arms is wrong, but, he's calling for the appropriate means to redress what he believes is wrong.

Rather than calling for a new law, he's calling for a Constitutional amendment, which is appropriate course of action.
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Postby Langenator » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:11 am

I did see one commentator says that (I'm guessing he assumed the Dems take the House and maybe Senate in November) that the Dems would be lucky to get 40% of the votes in the House if they did bring it up for a vote, and that they'd be lucky to hold 40% of the seats after the next election.
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Postby Old Grafton » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:46 am

Constitutional Amendment requires a Constitutional Convention. Once a CC is actually convened the whole Constitution is up for grabs. In today's world it would be the end of the Republic. "Attention All Commands; Imminent War Warning"

Edited to add: An amendment to the Constitution can be proposed only by Congress with a two-thirds vote in both houses, or by successfully calling a Constitutional Convention. And then any amendment has to be subsequently approved by 3/4's of the States. Why the ERA failed yeatrs back.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Netpackrat » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:29 pm

Since when?
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Postby Old Grafton » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:42 pm

NPR, see the edit above. I believe I remember Civics class but I AM getting old, so I might have missed something.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Precision » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:58 pm

there are a couple of methods to amend things. The voting method in the edit. The Constitutional Convention method. The article V method - convention of states which is quite different than a Constitutional Convention. I am a huge fan of options 3.

There is also the change the meaning of the words method and judicial activism method. I call this the slow boil method- and yes we are the frog.

Lastly there is the burn it down method that most progs seem to be ACTIVELY espousing over the last 2ish years. If they are going to do that one, please do it soon, so I am young enough to actively participate.
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Postby Steamforger » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:44 pm

I'm ready to see some states splitting up.

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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby scipioafricanus » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:37 pm

There is also can't amend any of the Bill of Rights since they exist prior to the founding as Natural Rights...

Given by God and all the rest of it...

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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby First Shirt » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:57 am

He shows his ass anytime he walks outside, he's ALL ass! Really wish he'd actually sit down and READ the constitution that he swore to uphold.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Vonz90 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:57 pm

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/j ... its-wrong/

Excellent take by Hans von Spakovsky (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)

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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby g-man » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:35 pm

Vonz90 wrote:... (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)


There's something to be said for familial connections to people who avoided the Holocaust ingraining a level of understanding of this issue which surpasses the general population. Which is why I always find it odd whenever Jews in this country align with the party of disarmament (at least on that issue).
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Weetabix » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:07 pm

Vonz90 wrote:https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/john-paul-stevens-2nd-amendment-column-why-its-wrong/

Excellent take by Hans von Spakovsky (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)

You already said it, but I feel compelled to repeat: Excellent!
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Postby scipioafricanus » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:33 pm

g-man wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:... (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)


There's something to be said for familial connections to people who avoided the Holocaust ingraining a level of understanding of this issue which surpasses the general population. Which is why I always find it odd whenever Jews in this country align with the party of disarmament (at least on that issue).


Ben Shapiro (miss you Ben on the forum!) has a great theory. Jews (big J) aren't Democrats: ones who go to temple regularly, live the faith, etc. People that happen to be jews (small j) but don't do anything related are.
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Postby scipioafricanus » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:36 pm

Vonz90 wrote:https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/john-paul-stevens-2nd-amendment-column-why-its-wrong/

Excellent take by Hans von Spakovsky (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)

That is really good.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

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scipioafricanus wrote:
g-man wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:... (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)


There's something to be said for familial connections to people who avoided the Holocaust ingraining a level of understanding of this issue which surpasses the general population. Which is why I always find it odd whenever Jews in this country align with the party of disarmament (at least on that issue).


Ben Shapiro (miss you Ben on the forum!) has a great theory. Jews (big J) aren't Democrats: ones who go to temple regularly, live the faith, etc. People that happen to be jews (small j) but don't do anything related are.


I'm pretty sure the famous Ben Shapiro is not our Ben S.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

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Netpackrat wrote:
scipioafricanus wrote:
g-man wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:... (apparently, it is a Kraut thing)


There's something to be said for familial connections to people who avoided the Holocaust ingraining a level of understanding of this issue which surpasses the general population. Which is why I always find it odd whenever Jews in this country align with the party of disarmament (at least on that issue).


Ben Shapiro (miss you Ben on the forum!) has a great theory. Jews (big J) aren't Democrats: ones who go to temple regularly, live the faith, etc. People that happen to be jews (small j) but don't do anything related are.


I'm pretty sure the famous Ben Shapiro is not our Ben S.

I thought he was.
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Re: John Paul Stevens Shows His Ass on 2nd Amendment

Postby Windy Wilson » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Vonz90 wrote:However, for our culture, I would much rather the Left made piece withe 2nd and work to fix the real problems (not that I expect it, but I would in fact prefer that it happened.)


If they did this they wouldn't be Leftists.
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