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March For Our Lives events - anyone else attend?

Postby Weetabix » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:37 pm

Did anyone else make it to a March For Our Lives event today? Here's my report:

My office window overlooks quite a bit of an area scheduled for one. I went mostly to observe humanity in mass, and just see what happened. The inviolable dictum is "Avoid crowds." So I was watching from my office window.

I can't see the entire area from my window, and just happened to be overlooking the black lives matter table at the SE corner. More stuff going on on the stage at the NW corner.

My buddy estimated 400, but I estimate more like 800-1000 at the peak.

Lots of haranguing through loudspeakers from the stage. I'd guess it was >80% brainless useful idiots.

Interestingly, they said the pledge of allegiance and sang the Star Spangled Banner. That seemed counter intuitive to me based on what I thought most of their views were on America and such.

Lots of signs about gun control, while they failed to realize that Parkwood (or whatever the name was) was entirely about government failing to do its job and round up the shooter before he became a shooter.

Lots of old ladies holding signs.

BLM working hard to make it about them, even though, I don't think any black kids died at Parkwood.

The BLM group was quite instructive to watch. They had a leader in heavy work boots that have probably never been involved in work (he looked very flabby and soft). Two guys who I think were security. Add in several angry black youth. Some white, colored-hair gay fellows (they were kissing earlier), some white lesbians (ditto, plus lots of hand holding), and one ineffectual looking white doofus male.

There was a small group with Gadsden flags, the one guy open carrying.

BLM sent the fat, angry white ladies and doofus to try to provoke the Gadsden people. Then they sent over the middle-aged hysterical lefty woman to try harder to provoke. They'd previously given doofus a large BLM flag to fly right by the Gadsden folks. He kept walking back over to the BLM table for instructions, it looked like.

Gadsden people were polite and not getting ruffled. Eventually, hysterical woman lost it and started screaming obscenities we could hear over the noise from the stage.

THEN, Boots (the leader) goes over to calm them down and demonstrate his rational restraint (I believe in part because he saw the cops edging over).

And, they had the "security" guys (think menacing-looking thugs) standing perimeter about 5 yards away. Security guys were being quiet and relatively still, but quite attentive.

So, I think what they were doing was using the white useful idiots to take the risks - maybe provoking violence, maybe getting arrested - while they staid back and manipulated.

One of the black lives matter security people eventually saw us watching them through binoculars, so he waved at me. I waved back. He grinned, then began pointing me out to others who also waved. I waved. Friendly Weetabix. I'm not convinced they were as friendly as they meant to appear.

No violence, no angry confrontation that I saw at the event except from hysterical woman. I think she blew a gasket in typical lefty fashion when she couldn't get them to say she was right and they probably responded rationally.

It was just interesting. BLM trying to make it about them and manipulating the useful idiots to try to provoke a confrontation. Gun rights people behaving and responding rationally.

But... do you think any lefty there saw that and changed what they think? Hollow laugh.

My mother-in-law was there with her sister. MIL had much more energy to march around in solidarity with brainless zombies than Auntie did. I only saw that Auntie made one circuit of the march, but MIL made several. I may not be able to resist asking her about it next time she's here.

I was listening to the scanner to see who else was watching and on what frequencies. The local PD Tac frequency had a bit of chatter, but not much. They spotted open carry guy coming in from a direction I couldn't see. That helped us spot him earlier. Other than that, they were pretty quiet. Though I did see a lot of PD on cell phones. I had a Baofeng set up as a "bubba scanner" for all the bubble pack radio frequencies. Didn't hear a thing on that. That surprised me. I'd bet they were using social media to coordinate.

Endless opportunities for hilarious trolling at something like this. But... Avoid crowds.

My son said, "I want to join the Lefty’s protest sometime (posing), and then conspicuously convert over to rational, right opinions after a few minutes of hysterical conversation with them. Just to make the liberals all ruffled up in their righteous feathers."

My missed opportunity: It would have been hilarious to have gone out the night before and put up small markers that said something like “200 yards, hold 1 inch high” with wind flags on top. Just to see if anyone noticed. :twisted:
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Re: March For Our Lives events - anyone else attend?

Postby Langenator » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:10 pm

There's a march scheduled this afternoon/evening on the campus where I work (Texas A&M). I work night shift, and we haven't been told to come in early, so I probably won't see any of it. I'll see what, if anything, we get told at shift brief.

If I wasn't working this weekend, I would have gone over with my Gonzalez and/or Gadsden flags just for fun. Maybe make some signs with quotes from the Founders, or a sign that said "Remember, the Revolution started with a gun grab."
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Postby scipioafricanus » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:34 pm

How quaint to have a march to take away peoples' rights.
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Postby rightisright » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:05 am

Local faceplant page was talking about it.

I learned a few things:

* Being a teacher is now a high risk occupation.
* The NRA has forbidden EVERYONE from researching gun issues.

And the best for last?

* The 2nd Amendment is not in the Constitution. It is in the Declaration of Independence. It was put there because we were going to war with Britain and since that war is over, it is no longer valid.

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Postby randy » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:48 am

Had one locally. I didn't go. Local media says "hundreds" gathered at the square downtown for the local franchise meeting. Which is the usual turnout for "progressive" events. Looks like the usual collection of true believers and useful idiots from the write up.

Made my contribution by taking Darlin' Daughter downtown to pick up her CCW permit, likely the most useful contribution to ending "gun violence" made around here today. (at the least, the violence will not be one sided)

A couple of thoughts:

Having sincerity and passion for a cause does not mean you are correct.

I get that people, especially kids, are angry and scared. Ask the Japanese American population of California how laws passed by angry and fearful people work out.
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Postby D5CAV » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:51 am

I've decided it's pointless to be a Jeffersonian Libertarian. I'm tired of the arguments, the ad-hominem attacks, and the lack of dates.

I have decided to become a Communist. I've already chosen a title for myself - party secretary for water treatment and distribution. Of course my staff will have to be armed to protect "critical infrastructure".

From these demonstrations, I see so many strong eager young people who will be "shovel ready" to help with that critical water infrastructure when the revolution comes.

As the Great Helmsman said, "power comes out of the barrel of a gun, which is why the Party must control all guns". That would be me - as well as the water.

Or as Blondie said in "Il Buono, Il Bruto, Il Cattivo", "There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns and those who dig."
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Postby Rod » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:44 pm

I quickly set up a counter protest in El Paso after I saw the local Democrat party hacks, including Beto O'Rourke who is trying to win out on a snowball's chance in Hell, of beating Ted Cruz. 9 people showed up and we were across the street from the park where the event was taking place. I had coordinated with the local PD and we were very cordially treated by them. I got the cell number of the LT. in charge and we stressed that we weren't trying to start a confrontation. Two men with ARs and 4 others with open carry pistols in retention holsters. There were about 200 people present at the event where the idiots kept speaking about everything under the sun. We got a laugh when O'Rourke told a story about meeting a vet who said he carried an AR-15 in Nam and said civilians didn't need that firepower. News media came over to talk to us, The anti's took pictures of us and our signs, we smiled and waved the signs for them. We engaged a couple of people who came close and were very polite. About 10 cars passed honking their horns at us and giving thumbs up. At the end, they announced their walk, about 4 blocks and cautioned that the crowd should not engage us because we would start trouble. Another mirth fest ensued as our group headed out to take a short cut to the next venue.
We arrived at the next stop, San Jacinto Plaza, where people were already set up. We centered ourselves on a couple of benches on the outskirts. No one approached but again they took pictures. The mob finally showed up from the rally chanting Hey, hey, get rid of the NRA. A group of them swarmed around us and started insulting and screaming, trying to get a reaction. The police wandered over and they left us. One guy pointed us out to his 5 year old and said, "See them? They're evil men."
Other statements that cracked us up. "You love your guns more than you love our kids!". Calm reply, was we love our kids, that's why we have guns.
Woman asked me if I knew the meaning of the Gadsden flag. I told her I had taught social studies for 17 years and knew exactly what it meant, did she. She said she did then walked away when I asked her to explain. I'm guessing she was going to call it a racist flag.
Others came over to have civil conversations, lots of dogs to admire and talk about. One girl of about 15 had a sign saying End Boyfriend Loophole. I humorously mentioned that that was the funniest sign I saw. She started lecturing us that the boyfriend loophole was the "fact" that, domestic violence laws meant that married men or women (she was at least smart enough to know that) who was convicted of domestic violence lost their rights to own guns. BUT, according to here, that wasn't so with boyfriends. Two of us corrected her and told her she might want to check the laws, being as polite as possible without breaking into gales of laughter. A woman standing by and listening in said she'd check that out and we told her to feel free.
At the end of the event, I thanked the police and they had replied we handled ourselves well and they thanked us for NOT trying to start trouble.
Takeaways:
Teachers bringing whole classes
Lots of parents with children
Children 8 and under carrying signs that they couldn't even read
Politicians using any chance to lay out their failed agenda
Leftists trying to start trouble when we wouldn't
Misinformed idiots in abundance
Possibility that our reasoned responses and non-violence actually change a couple of minds.
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Postby Steamforger » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:59 pm

There seems to have been a correlation that happened that linked what these idiots think of the rest of us in their minds to the Gadsden, Culpepper, and Navy Jack flags. As usual, no one did even a scrap of research.

Because they don't know what a fascist is, and believe with every fiber of their being that we are the fascists, they have concluded these flags are fascist flags and only carried around by NAZIIISSSSSS!!!!!!!

These people are nothing more than rusty tools.

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Postby HTRN » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:12 pm

See, this is why I don't bring up my "submachineguns should be sold from vending machines" position at work.
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Postby MiddleAgedKen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:20 am

There were tens of people at the protest I saw yesterday.

Somehow, there was one guy in the crowd -- near the edge, but definitely in the crowd -- with a sign reading something like, "Why do liberal Democrats keep shooting up our schools, nightclubs, and churches?" ("Impressive," says Darth Vader.) No one appeared to be giving the guy a hard time, either.

I stayed away. I have kind of a short fuse (temper, that is).
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Postby D5CAV » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:52 am

As Sun Tzu said, "The supreme art of war is to convince your opponent to lay down his arms."

Here's the ultimate in hypocrisy: https://www.timesofisrael.com/parkland- ... ves-rally/

Jews in Israel calling for US citizens to disarm. How about start in Israel? I'm sure there are numerous groups in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt who would support disarmament of Israelis - "for the children."

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Postby Rod » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:32 pm

I hate the casual way survivor is being thrown around. ONE building of seven was the scene of the shooting. The rest weren't even involved in it. If you're hiding under a desk in a building 50 yards away, you're not a survivor, you're lucky. Under their loose definition, if you were in the parking lot of a mall where a shooting takes place, you "survived" the shooting.
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Postby Weetabix » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:21 pm

It's part of their tactic of taking over the language. I saw lots of "Ban Assault Weapons" signs. Lots of "My body is more regulated than guns" signs.

If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, lots of people will believe it.
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And they left their sh*t everywhere: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03 ... -clean-up/
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Postby Jered » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:55 am

Rod wrote:I hate the casual way survivor is being thrown around. ONE building of seven was the scene of the shooting. The rest weren't even involved in it. If you're hiding under a desk in a building 50 yards away, you're not a survivor, you're lucky. Under their loose definition, if you were in the parking lot of a mall where a shooting takes place, you "survived" the shooting.


I had to qualify with my handgun at work.

I guess that makes me a shooting survivor.
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Postby Catbird » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:54 am

I went to the one in Seattle.

I had been going back and forth about whether or not to go since I heard about it a few weeks ago. When one of the scouts in my troop scheduled his Eagle project for that day I figured I would be doing that. Then last week he announced he had to reschedule for Sunday, so that freed up Saturday.

I still wasn't sure though. I'm normally allergic to being the center of attention. I hadn't seen any interest in an organized counter protest on the local gun boards. I also had mixed feelings about participating and giving more "heat" to the event. I also wasn't eager to try to find parking around the Capitol Hill neighborhood where the march started, marching, and then walking back to my truck. I was also trying to work out the logistics of the dogs, if they could handle all the walking, especially the older one. I realized that I could park near the Seattle Center, the goal of the march, and just walk a few blocks, so that's what I did.

I had picked up a cheap, clip-on DVR on Friday, mostly for documenting if anything went sideways. I turns out that it wasn't positioned to shoot video very well, but I got the audio. I wore my typical casual clothes; jeans, plain black t-shirt, black Gore-Tex Carhart jacket, and a non descript baseball cap, I carried my AR strapped muzzle down across my back. I had a full 20 rd. magazine, (empty chamber). I removed the EOTech sight and installed the carry handle, partly so the sight wouldn't get lost or damaged in case of unforeseen circumstances, mostly so it would look more "assault weapony". This is the first time I have ever open carried any sort of long gun. I also had my SIG Pro in a OWB holster under my jacket. Also two dogs on a split leash.

I would guess there were about 3000-4000 people at the Seattle Center for the rally part of the march. I walked up to a place I could see the crowd and the stage and hung out at the outer edge. One man with his girlfriend approached me soon after I arrived. He was carrying a neon colored plastic "super soaker". He asked me if the gun was real, (that seemed to be most people's first question, I guess that would be the obvious ice breaker if I was in their position). He asked if I was there to counter protest. I said no, I was just out to walk the dogs and enjoy the day. He said that he had grown up in Houston and was familiar with the heavy gun culture there. He had recently lived in Japan for a couple years and wished that US firearms were more severely restricted like they were there. He said that he was concerned about an individual having so much power. He made the point that I could take my rifle and spray the crowd causing severe damage and pain. I told him that he could fill his squirt gun with gasoline and do the same thing, without a background check even. We talked about bump stocks and I explained that bump fire and full auto were quite different and that one could bump fire without the special stock with just a thumb and belt loop.

I talked to a couple other people for a total of approximately an hour. I was calm and polite and listened to what they had to say. I answered questions truthfully and tried to clear up misconceptions. I tried to make the point that most of the problems that people there were concerned about would be solved if the authorities simply enforced existing laws and policies. To those who felt that the country would be better off if no civilians were allowed to own guns, I said that what I feared most was living in a country where the government had a monopoly on that kind of force and therefore no motivation to follow their own laws. All of the people I talked to thanked me for listening and said that I was obviously one of the "responsible ones" that they weren't worried about, though they still didn't understand why citizens needed assault rifles. I talked about how some people believe that assault rifles are weapons of war designed for killing mass numbers in a short period of time. I asked. "If that's true, why does every police department in America use them? Surely we don't employ cops to murder people en mass?" One person asked If I was open to the idea of personalized gun technology, (biometric security). I told her that I would be willing to accept trust the technology as soon as the police were, (Seattle, King Co. Sheriff, State Patrol).

When the conversations came to a natural conclusion, I walked a large loop around the crowd. I don't think anyone noticed I was carrying a gun, at least not until I was well past them. It was my intention when I first arrived to find a policeman and let him know I was there with a rifle and had no ill intent so that he would know about me in case someone reported. The police were conspicuous in their absence. There are usually four or five at least wandering around in a crowd that size.

I saw a lot of handmade signs, a significant percentage hating on the NRA. There were a lot of mass produced signs which, if you read the fine print at the bottom, were supplied by the Socialist Party. There were a lot of printed signs with artwork made to look like handmade signs.

I headed back to the truck with no further incident, except in the last block, a minivan seemed to be following slowly behind me. I turned the corner and he moved on.

All in all, I'm glad I went. I'm still sore from the work project on Sunday though.
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http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2018/03 ... lives.html

Interesting but not that surprising.

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Postby SoupOrMan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:54 pm

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Postby Vonz90 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:17 am

From Jonah Goldberg's column today:

The Washington Post had a fascinating story yesterday that looked at who attended the rally and the reasons why they turned out. Apparently, they weren’t mostly young and they weren’t primarily there to agitate for gun control:

Participants were also more likely than those at recent marches to be first-time protesters. About 27 percent of participants at the March for Our Lives had never protested before. This group was less politically engaged in general: Only about a third of them had contacted an elected official in the past year, while about three-quarters of the more seasoned protesters had.

Even more interesting, the new protesters were less motivated by the issue of gun control. In fact, only 12 percent of the people who were new to protesting reported that they were motivated to join the march because of the gun-control issue, compared with 60 percent of the participants with experience protesting.

Instead, new protesters reported being motivated by the issues of peace (56 percent) and Trump (42 percent), who has been a galvanizing force for many protesters.

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Postby HTRN » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:14 am

Theres something hinky with march for our lives, theres a thread over in GD that gets into it..
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Postby Langenator » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:35 pm

Basically, the Usual Suspects of the Organized Left had most of it already prepped, ready to go, just waiting for the right mass shooting with the right victim set.

Vegas didn't provide it, though I think they tried, and they managed to pull the bump stock ban out of it. (I don't think they knew what bump stocks or bump firing were before.) But the victim set was wrong - mostly white Trump voters.

The Texas church shooting didn't do it, because the shooter was a prohibited person who only was able to get guns because the .gov screwed up, and because that darned bystander had to go and mess things up by stopping the shooting with an AR-15.

Then Douglas HS gave them the perfect set of victims - schoolkids, shot by their classmate. Better yet, middle to upper middle class liberal (Broward went 60% for Hillary) school kids who could provide them with puppet mouthpieces for their anti-gun propaganda.
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Postby MiddleAgedKen » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:30 pm

Langenator wrote:Basically, the Usual Suspects of the Organized Left had most of it already prepped, ready to go, just waiting for the right mass shooting with the right victim set.

Vegas didn't provide it, though I think they tried, and they managed to pull the bump stock ban out of it. (I don't think they knew what bump stocks or bump firing were before.) But the victim set was wrong - mostly white Trump voters.

The Texas church shooting didn't do it, because the shooter was a prohibited person who only was able to get guns because the .gov screwed up, and because that darned bystander had to go and mess things up by stopping the shooting with an AR-15.

Then Douglas HS gave them the perfect set of victims - schoolkids, shot by their classmate. Better yet, middle to upper middle class liberal (Broward went 60% for Hillary) school kids who could provide them with puppet mouthpieces for their anti-gun propaganda.


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