Kommander wrote:
I thought that was more an Alt-Right thing than anything. The sides are getting blurry and I can't tell the National Socialist Workers Party from the Workers Party for National Socialism.
The problem is that "libertarian" technically falls under alt-right. For a brief period, that was okay. But in the end, "alt-right" is a label Nazis, fascists, Traditional Nationalists, Monarchist/Tories and so on have readily adopted as well.
I shit you not, I have seen people calling themselves "libertarian monarchists," "anarcho-nationalists," "libertarian feudalists," or generally attaching "libertarian" to absolutely authoritarian belief systems. "Classical liberal" used to ultimately mean "live and let live," now it means that the Union was wrong in the Civil War because they sought to disrupt the South's property rights.
Respond to those nuts with "people aren't property," the response is "well they were back then" which apparently makes it okay. Nuances of the Civil War aside, WTF.
To paraphrase Orwell, "the word Libertarian has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something I find desirable.'" At least, with people who consider themselves on the right.
For most people Libertarianism begins and ends with smoking dope. They'd be perfectly happy to live under Stalin (complete with gulags) if they could smoke pot (preferably pot paid for by someone else).
When you tell them being a Libertarian means personal responsibility their brains cramp.
Don't forget prostitution. Drugs and whores, all legal.
That's all too many big-l Libertarians.
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Jericho941 wrote:Video's pretty sweet, works fine muted.
HTRN wrote:Am I the only one who read the title, and was expecting a Pinochet thread? :jacked:
The transformation of Pinochet from a brutal dictator to Your Fun Anti-Commie Uncle is one of the reasons I don't tell people I'm libertarian anymore.
People get tired of Che t-shirts, Lenin pins, Commie hero murals, posters, etc of all kinds. And everything that goes with it, the punitive smugness, I could go on.
You get shit on long enough, the big FU in return is not always as perfectly nuanced as you might like.
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Jericho941 wrote:The transformation of Pinochet from a brutal dictator to Your Fun Anti-Commie Uncle is one of the reasons I don't tell people I'm libertarian anymore.
I thought that was more an Alt-Right thing than anything. The sides are getting blurry and I can't tell the National Socialist Workers Party from the Workers Party for National Socialism.
The problem is that "libertarian" technically falls under alt-right. For a brief period, that was okay. But in the end, "alt-right" is a label Nazis, fascists, Traditional Nationalists, Monarchist/Tories and so on have readily adopted as well.
I shit you not, I have seen people calling themselves "libertarian monarchists," "anarcho-nationalists," "libertarian feudalists," or generally attaching "libertarian" to absolutely authoritarian belief systems. "Classical liberal" used to ultimately mean "live and let live," now it means that the Union was wrong in the Civil War because they sought to disrupt the South's property rights.
Respond to those nuts with "people aren't property," the response is "well they were back then" which apparently makes it okay. Nuances of the Civil War aside, WTF.
To paraphrase Orwell, "the word Libertarian has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something I find desirable.'" At least, with people who consider themselves on the right.
No, not just the right.
I know all too many lefty Daily Show worshipping smug status conscious prog climbers who insist they are libertarians. Why, what they think that word means, I really have no idea.
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HTRN wrote:What i really want is one of those nifty little 75mm pack howitzers.
The downside is theyre max effective range is nearly matched by the big 120mm mortar now in use by the us army
And we got noise complaints from your range when I was a member there, I could only imagine what the neighbors would say if you set one of THOSE off......
HTRN wrote:What i really want is one of those nifty little 75mm pack howitzers.
The downside is theyre max effective range is nearly matched by the big 120mm mortar now in use by the us army
I want a 37mm sniper rifle, aka 37mm AT gun, aka door knocker.
Near the end of the war we were using ours as sniper rifles/grenade launchers.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
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