The Gun Counter

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?

Melt them down and start over?

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?

Isn't that what HiPoint does?

These various Raven and Sons guns are pot metal blowback cheap guns that don't work.

Aren't HiPoints pot metal blowback cheap guns that actually work? (Which is why they're so clunky and bulky?)

That's it, then. Hi point pistols stand up to use because the cheap metal is thick enough to be used.

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?

The major issue is that they're isn't much room to fix them. Tolerances are sloppy, machining is sloppy, fit and finish is sloppy. The designs are barely workable if100% correct. Add in the crap processes and it's junk.
I once owned a jennings j22 (actually it was my wife's) the instructions said you had to put the safety on FIRE to chamber a round. The safety in theory prevented the slide from moving if it was set to SAFE. In actual fact you could easily over ride the safety because it fit loosely in the frame. So if you cocked it while on SAFE, if you flip the safety to FIRE, it would go off. Nice.

What about their designs with better materials and machining?

I'm ashamed to admit that I have gotten pretty good at fixing these cheap POS guns . It is only because I have to test fire them for work from time to time.
The way you make them better is by buying a better gun.

Candyman wrote:I'm ashamed to admit that I have gotten pretty good at fixing these cheap POS guns . It is only because I have to test fire them for work from time to time.
The way you make them better is by buying a better gun.

I think it's a great idea for OGs and wannabe OGs to use these POS guns.......much better than them using Sigs or HKs.

skb12172 wrote:What about their designs with better materials and machining?

You can bath a pig and put nice ornaments on it............... but it's still a pig.