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School me on AR-10's

Postby Weetabix » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:18 am

A buddy of mine just got a Palmetto PA-10. He hasn't shot it much, but now, he just KNOWS that I need one. ;)

I can't find much in the way of reviews, so I suspect I may be googling badly.

For a general purpose shooter who's not a gunsmith or particularly interested in a research-heavy build, any recommendations for a dependable, reasonably accurate rifle? Haven't thought about a budget, but, say, under $2,000 for sure. Closer to $1,000 would be better.

I know someone here must have an opinion! :lol:
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby Greg » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:06 am

About all I know is they just recently updated their design from Mark I to Mark II.

No idea what changed, but you probably don't want Mark I anymore.
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby Weetabix » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:09 am

I'm not sold on the PSA guns. Not biased against, either. Just looking for some not so humble opinions. HTRN?
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby HTRN » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:28 am

Have you looked at DPMS?
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby rightisright » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:15 am

I have one of the first edition PSA AR-10 kits. I had a problem w. the lower receiver. Mags wouldn't slide in far enough for the mag/catch release to retain them. I WECSOGed it w. a Dremel and it now works. I haven't shot it enough to determine reliability. But it's gone through about 200 rounds of 147g FMJ without any problems. I haven't scoped it or shot it past 25 yards yet (yeah, not too many outdoor ranges near me), so no comment on accuracy.

I also have a higher end BRO billet upper/lower AR-10. That one is scoped w. a Vortex Viper HS 4-16x50 and can easily shot 1 MOA at 100 yards (the longest I have shot it so far) w. Federal Gold Match 168g BTHP ammo. It also shoots PRVI 168g in slightly larger groups. And that could be operator error as I only shot the PRVI during one session.

Keep in mind, DPMS and Armalite platforms have many parts that are not interchangeable. And DPMS uppers can be "High Profile" or "Low Profile" which will affect railed handguard and front sight height. Yeah, AR-10's are much more of a PITA to build than AR-15s. :)

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Postby Netpackrat » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:12 am

AlaskaTRX has a PSA AR-10 that he built from parts. There were some problems but I think he eventually got it all sorted. The PSA rifle is kind of a hybrid design that combines aspects of both AR-10 "standards" so you have to really know what pieces are compatible with it.
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby Jericho941 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:12 am

HTRN wrote:Have you looked at DPMS?


I've heard a lot of noise saying to avoid DPMS. Not sure if it's legit or just budget rifle snobbery.

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Postby MiddleAgedKen » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:00 pm

Stag introduced one this year, I believe (LH version is on the way).
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Postby First Shirt » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:33 pm

MiddleAgedKen wrote:Stag introduced one this year, I believe (LH version is on the way).

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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby AlaskaTRX » Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:29 am

Netpackrat wrote:AlaskaTRX has a PSA AR-10 that he built from parts. There were some problems but I think he eventually got it all sorted. The PSA rifle is kind of a hybrid design that combines aspects of both AR-10 "standards" so you have to really know what pieces are compatible with it.


I have a Gen 1 PSA PA-10 upper/lower; I have a KAK barrel and bolt, with a MI foregrip and a bunch of other goodies on it. If I had to do it over again, I would have started with an Aero M5 receiver set. Like my brother alluded to, the PSA design is a mishmash of different AR-10 standards with some AR-15 parts thrown in to ensure confusion.

I purchased a Geissele SSA trigger that I can't use unless I want to grind on it, plus the bolt catch (I had PSA send me others) never was quite right and would not turn freely on the mil-spec roll pin without modification. Most other "AR-10" makers have gone a capture pin/allen head design that is far superior. Otherwise I haven't had any other problems (yet), but I haven't fired it enough to say that it is reliable and works well.

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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby rightisright » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:09 pm

AlaskaTRX wrote:
I purchased a Geissele SSA trigger that I can't use unless I want to grind on it,


I was told by PSA that no 2 stage trigger will work in their Gen 1 lower. Don't know about Gen 2.

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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby AlaskaTRX » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:00 am

rightisright wrote:
AlaskaTRX wrote:
I purchased a Geissele SSA trigger that I can't use unless I want to grind on it,


I was told by PSA that no 2 stage trigger will work in their Gen 1 lower. Don't know about Gen 2.


PSA made no such disclaimer when I bought my receivers.

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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby Darrell » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:41 pm

Today's Palmetto ad shows a bare bones gen 2 PA10 .308 for $599.99. They also show a fancier one for $699.99.
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Re: School me on AR-10's

Postby rightisright » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:14 pm

AlaskaTRX wrote:
rightisright wrote:
AlaskaTRX wrote:
I purchased a Geissele SSA trigger that I can't use unless I want to grind on it,


I was told by PSA that no 2 stage trigger will work in their Gen 1 lower. Don't know about Gen 2.


PSA made no such disclaimer when I bought my receivers.


I had a Geissele G2S lying around. Tried to get that to fit..no dice. So I called them. I don't think they had anything on their site about it, though.


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