Thoughts on 22 handguns

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Re: Thoughts on 22 handguns

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Weetabix wrote:So, JKO, given your research to date, what are you thinking about?

Dream gun?

Gun you think would adequately serve your needs, but you'd need some time to get it?

Reasonable enough and achievable shortly?
Gotcha. In that case....
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Dream gun: S&W 617. I already have a 686 that I'm rather fond of. A .22 on a similar frame would be very useful to me. I think it would probably be a little large for my intended purchase in this case though.

Adequate and achievable: Sounds like a used S&W 22a/Buckmark/Ruger MK would all fit the bill. Interested in the SA revolvers as well, but I've never handled or shot one. I'm kind of leaning towards the autos though. I like the idea of a red-dot for this application. Precision could be important.

Reasonable and shortly achievable: I'll have to hit up a couple local shops and see what they actually have in stock. I've been lusting after a glock for a little while and have pretty much ignored the .22's every time I've been browsing.
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JKosprey wrote:
Weetabix wrote:So, JKO, given your research to date, what are you thinking about?

Dream gun?

Gun you think would adequately serve your needs, but you'd need some time to get it?

Reasonable enough and achievable shortly?
Gotcha. In that case....
.
Dream gun: S&W 617. I already have a 686 that I'm rather fond of. A .22 on a similar frame would be very useful to me. I think it would probably be a little large for my intended purchase in this case though.
They make a great combo, but the trigger on the 617 is much heavier. It's as close as I come to a gripe about it.
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Greg wrote:They make a great combo, but the trigger on the 617 is much heavier. It's as close as I come to a gripe about it.
Buddy of mine has one. I didn't notice a significant difference in his. Could be some occasionally lax QC I suppose.
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Oh goodness gracious, I just accidentally discovered Smith is producing a 3" all-stainless J-frame, the Model 63. Looks a lot like the 3" aluminum Model 317 Kit Gun, just weighs 26oz vs 12.5oz

Oh and it seems Ruger is now offering the GP100 in .22lr
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JKosprey wrote:
Greg wrote:They make a great combo, but the trigger on the 617 is much heavier. It's as close as I come to a gripe about it.
Buddy of mine has one. I didn't notice a significant difference in his. Could be some occasionally lax QC I suppose.
It's smooth, just a heavier pull on the 617. Assumed it was deliberate, due to requirements for rimfire ignition.
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Greg wrote:Oh goodness gracious, I just accidentally discovered Smith is producing a 3" all-stainless J-frame, the Model 63. Looks a lot like the 3" aluminum Model 317 Kit Gun, just weighs 26oz vs 12.5oz

Oh and it seems Ruger is now offering the GP100 in .22lr
That IS the kit gun. They've been making it for a long time, blued and stainless.
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I like the idea of a red-dot for this application. Precision could be important.
Have you considered a Ruger Charger pistol? Either the full pistol or the takedown model? A pistol version of the Ruger 10/22. Comes with a hard case, bipod, and optics rail already mounted. Because of the weight, there is almost no recoil making easy follow up shots. MSRP of either type is under $500. Accuracy is outstanding under 50 yards.

Gunblast video review and pictures

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This one is for sale on Gunbroker right now. Apparently unfired. Auction price starting at $300. Link

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Netpackrat wrote:
Greg wrote:Oh goodness gracious, I just accidentally discovered Smith is producing a 3" all-stainless J-frame, the Model 63. Looks a lot like the 3" aluminum Model 317 Kit Gun, just weighs 26oz vs 12.5oz

Oh and it seems Ruger is now offering the GP100 in .22lr
That IS the kit gun. They've been making it for a long time, blued and stainless.
Except for when they stopped making it.

What they've called the 'kit gun' has changed. Used to be a steel j-frame. Then in recent times for a number of years, they stopped making a steel j-frame .22 and only offered an aluminum j-frame .22 which they called (call, now, look at their web site) the 'kit gun'.

The 'new' steel j-frame .22 that is currently in production they call only Model 63. At this time, Smith reserves the 'kit gun' nomenclature for the aluminum j-frame .22 that is also known as the Model 317.

Personally, I'd be inclined to call any j-frame .22 a kit gun, but take it up with Smith.
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The current bunch of assholes that own S&W can call it whatever they want. To everyone else, a J framed .22 will always be the kit gun, regardless of what material they make the frame out of..
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Netpackrat wrote:The current bunch of assholes that own S&W can call it whatever they want. To everyone else, a J framed .22 will always be the kit gun, regardless of what material they make the frame out of..
Sign me up. ;)
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