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The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:56 am
by Darrell
It's a sort of break action bullpup, striker fired; OAL length is ~27 1/2", with a barrel length of 26". It's a Pfeifer SR2. Found via reddit/guns:

http://imgur.com/a/AGHE0

I guess you can't call it a bolt action, since it doesn't have a bolt. The "backwards trigger" actually cocks the striker; the trigger is a button for the striker release. The owner says it has a clean 0.5 kg (1.1 lb) break; the firing pin is rocker actuated, and does not suffer the usual bullpup trigger issues. The gun is a .300 winmag, the owner says he put five rounds of factory ammo into a 2 cm group at 100 m.

Here's the reddit comment thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/3 ... ing_rifle/

And here's Pfeifer Waffen's website, English version:

http://www.pfeifer-waffen.at/en/home.html

Looks like the SR2's base price is 2,700 Euros.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:09 am
by Netpackrat
That's certainly... different.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:56 am
by slowpoke
They have a sweet k98 in 7.5 Swiss. Someone remind me how painful/expensive it would be to import that.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:34 am
by Denis
slowpoke wrote:They have a sweet k98 in 7.5 Swiss. Someone remind me how painful/expensive it would be to import that.
If you're looking at the used one they're selling for EUR 560, it's a perfectly normal K98 sporter - you could probably buy a similar one stateside and have Lothar Walther short-chamber a 7.5x55 barrel for it for less than you'd spend on importing Pfeiffer's one.

On the other hand, if you are really serious about importing that particular one (i.e. money-up-front serious), contact me privately and we'll discuss it... :mrgreen:

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:50 pm
by Vonz90
Meh

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:10 pm
by Flintlock Tom
I'm having trouble visualizing a 26" barrel and only a 27.5" OAL.
Manually load a single round through the back of the butt-stock?
And, a 2 round magazine?

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:27 pm
by First Shirt
I saw a puppy once that was a cross between a wire-haired dachsund and a French bulldog.

It wasn't that ugly.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:08 am
by D5CAV
This looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Bullpups have their place, but the only one I like is the Steyr AUG. It is the only one with a slightly less sucky trigger than every other bullpup, and they all have sucky triggers, just some slightly less sucky than others. The Tavor trigger really sucks; it reminds me of the VP70 trigger.

Kel-Tec managed to design a reasonably good trigger for their .308 bullpup rifle, but it is a very complicated rube-goldberg-esque mechanism to get it to work over that travel distance. I suspect this trigger is of a similar design.

Problems I see with this rifle:
1. the trigger has to be complicated to work in a bullpup design - complicated and reliable are difficult to mix.
2. I'm OK with a 5.56 NATO round under my cheek with the extensive failure testing done by Steyr for the Austrian military, and almost 40 year history of the rifle. I'm not OK with a .300 Win Mag round under my cheek when I pull the trigger, especially with a new, untested design. I'm guessing Mr. Pfeifer didn't intentionally try to blow up his gun with a double charged .300 WM round, like Steyr did (many times).
3. This would be yet another rifle I have to check local gun regs before I put in the truck. I know it won't meet minimum length rules in the PRK.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:14 pm
by Greg
Flintlock Tom wrote:I'm having trouble visualizing a 26" barrel and only a 27.5" OAL.
Manually load a single round through the back of the butt-stock?
And, a 2 round magazine?
The back of the buttstock is the 'breech block' and swings open, so you can manually load a round. Yep, it's a single shot. The striker is under the barrel and travels *rearward* when released, and it hits a rocker that has a nub on it to hit the primer. They've really gone to some trouble to minimize overall length.

Re: The Coolest Rifle I've Seen In A While-Pfeifer SR2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:01 pm
by Darrell
Greg wrote:
Flintlock Tom wrote:I'm having trouble visualizing a 26" barrel and only a 27.5" OAL.
Manually load a single round through the back of the butt-stock?
And, a 2 round magazine?
The back of the buttstock is the 'breech block' and swings open, so you can manually load a round. Yep, it's a single shot. The striker is under the barrel and travels *rearward* when released, and it hits a rocker that has a nub on it to hit the primer. They've really gone to some trouble to minimize overall length.
This. If you bother to follow links in the original post, the owner says the rifle has a very crisp (unbullpup-like) 1.1 lb pull. I agree that it's not the handsomest gun in the world--that thumbhole stock looks like something from an old Norinco SKS. Consider, though, that all the business end of the action is in that last 1 1/2" of the stock. I think it's rather ingenious. Strictly speaking, is it a bullpup at all?