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Postby Kommander » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:44 am

Are you tired of being constrained by "male" articles of clothing with no basis in logic? Are your manly bits yearning to breathe free? Then you need a Utilikilt! Utilikilts are the perfect garment to liberate yourself from the oppression of the pantrachary. Women will swoon at you, men will want to be you, and everyone will want to know whose wearing that kilt!

Utilikils are made of only the finest of materials, hand crafted by Seattle folk craftsmen who have been making kilts for millenia. They provide almost unlimited space for concealed weaponry such as handguns, knives, rocks, nunchucks, grenades, short swords, ninja stars, broken bottles, brass knuckles, thermonuclear warheads, and rocket propelled chainsaws. The wide belt loops allow the wearing of a traditional styled belt fashioned from the skin of your enemies and 3 pockets provide plenty of storage space.



Utilikilts are good for a number common outdoor and inddor activities. These Include:

Work:
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Fighting the English:
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Zombie Apokylispe:
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Fighting the Fuzzy Wuzzies:
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Remember that William Wallace wore a kilt when he defeated the British at Stirling Bridge. Connor MacLeod wore one when he dueled the Kurgan. When the tide turned at Helms Deep utilikit was there. When the Tannhäuser Gate was shattered Utilikilt was there. Utilikilt was, is, and always shall be.

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Re: Utilikilts!

Postby Kommander » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:03 am

Kilt Observations:

1) For the full effect you really need to wear the kilt and the kilt alone. Underware gets in the way of the effect.

2) Kilts attract attention. People may think that you work at a theme bar, a forest ranger, boyscout, cop, a member of some obscure military unit,or are from another country (then again I get that without the kilt...).

3) Walking into the frozen foods section of the supermarket on a hot summer day becomes quite the experience.

4) Avoid having girls sit in your lap. They will undoubtedly discover just how much you appreciate them, whether you want them to or not.

5) You will suddenly discover why girls like skirts. However miniskirts will remain a mystery.

6) Certain precautions must be taken while wearing a kilt. One must be careful in how they sit and lookout for stray gusts of wind.

7) I think I might have to get a tattoo and multiple piercings now. Not that I want to but I seem to have violated some sort of natural law here by wearing a Utilikilt and not having any bodyart. You might choose and outward method of self expression, but me? I'm crazy on the INSIDE!

8) Why are all these people staring at...oh that's right. Hmm...the 1911 probably doesn't help either. Oh well.

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Postby Netpackrat » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:13 am

I guess it is an improvement on the last garment trend you attempted to start.... Beyond that, I really can't say.
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Postby First Shirt » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:09 pm

Netpackrat wrote:I guess it is an improvement on the last garment trend you attempted to start.... Beyond that, I really can't say.



You get a very definite "Amen!" on that one!
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Postby Rumpshot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:27 pm

The body armor in the first photo definitely sets the stage.

On another note, Kommander wore his kilt to the OC dinner in Phoenix on August 8th. Didn't notice the girls swooning though.....
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Postby Aglifter » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:39 pm

I admit, had I any drop of Celtic blood in me, I might be tempted to wear such a thing while working around the place... Not in public though... Unless you have a brogue, or are competing in Highland games/strongman...
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Postby rightisright » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:57 pm

Dunno... my "boys" like a little support...

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Postby blackeagle603 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:04 pm

Asked the tourist, "Is anything worn under that?"

Replied the Scotsman, "No. Everything works fine."
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Postby Cybrludite » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:17 am

Netpackrat wrote:I guess it is an improvement on the last garment trend you attempted to start.... Beyond that, I really can't say.

Dare I ask?
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Postby merll2005 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:22 am

Cybrludite wrote:
Netpackrat wrote:I guess it is an improvement on the last garment trend you attempted to start.... Beyond that, I really can't say.

Dare I ask?


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Postby arctictom » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:23 am

Ok then , Kilts not for the arctic.
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Postby mekender » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:15 am

rightisright wrote:Dunno... my "boys" like a little support...


Mine too!

Though my favorite is still the elderly female doctor doing my physical. Shaky hands do have their uses!
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Postby Flintlock Tom » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:50 pm

True patriots wear Amerikilt.

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Postby Flintlock Tom » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:55 pm

And if you wear the Black Watch tartan, the 1911 is mandatory.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:20 pm

Gee Tom,
Now you got me looking at that Amerikilt. What would the TexaKilt ensemble be? Tony Lama boots and tooled western style BBQ gun and holster/belt combolike this from Mernickle?
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Postby Lokidude » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:36 am

OC with a magazine in, Tom? I take it you weren't in the lovely CA?
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Postby Rumpshot » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:50 pm

Classic photos Tom. I especially liked the NoR shirt in the second photo. Great.

Along those lines, what was the occasion for the second photo? I did not recognize the background.
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Postby Kommander » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:21 pm

Tom what brand is your Black Watch kilt? I have been thinking of getting something more traditional.

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Postby Flintlock Tom » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:21 pm

Lokidude wrote:OC with a magazine in, Tom? I take it you weren't in the lovely CA?

This was at a TEA party rally in downtown San Diego (Spanish Landing), back in April, I think.
Open carry is legal in CA with a few restrictions. The mag in the gun is unloaded but the mags in the pouch are full of hollow-points. Shhh, the bad-guys don't know the mag in the gun is unloaded.

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Postby Lokidude » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:36 pm

I knew OC was legal in CA, and remember the article you were interviewed for. Somehow, I got myself under the mistaken impression, though, that "unloaded" meant an empty magwell. Mea Culpa.
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Postby Cybrludite » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:13 am

Flintlock Tom wrote:And if you wear the Black Watch tartan, the 1911 is mandatory.

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Huh. I've got the same holster. (And also the same shirt...)
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Postby MarkD » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:03 pm

This thread has gotten me thinking, and that's a bad thing!

Still, except for St Patrick's Day, I've NEVER seen a man walking around in my area (NYC/NJ) in a kilt. I did see one in Seattle a few weeks ago, but....

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Flintlock Tom wrote:Kommander: sorry for the thread-jack. :oops:


Threadjack? What threadjack? We are still talking about kilts right? By the standards of this forum were still right on target. Now if we were somehow talking about ancient Egypt, Napoleonic artillery, or lung transplants then we would be off topic.

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Kommander wrote:Now if we were somehow talking about ancient Egypt...


Well, now that you mention it, the ancient Irish brought the kilt to Egypt too.

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Postby skb12172 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:05 pm

If this product, er, TAKES OFF, so to speak, will you then expand into the assless chaps market?
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Postby Netpackrat » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:50 pm

You just had to say it, didn't you?
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Postby Dub_James » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:47 am

Of course he did. This is the Gun Counter.

Is Gun Counter. Is home of Assless chaps of the Apokylipse.

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Of all the things this forum is known or remembered for, I shake my head when any top things about it are listed, the Assless Chaps always get a top billing.
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Postby Greg » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:19 pm

Ok I'll bite. :lol:

As I posted to another forum, it's a time-honored tradition going back thousands of years that badasses wear pants. Just ask the Romans/Byzantines.

It's also an American tradition. Cowboys wear pants, and for exactly the same reason as Byzantine badasses. Heh.

Now what we have here is some Celtic-wannabe neobarbs messing with TRADITION. We don't mess with tradition here, now do we?
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Postby Aglifter » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:34 pm

Badasses have also worn tunics (Roman Legions), Nothing buy Iron collars (Celtic and German Barbarians.,) etc... Actually, I think most of the world wore kilts/tunics until relatively recently...
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Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:47 pm

Looking at UOC for myself. A kilt seems like just the ticket to go with the spirit of it. I can rationalize it: son of a Scot immigrant and Grandad wore a kilt to war in 1914.

So a Sherpa and a Utilikilt makes sense as an ensemble.

However, seems like ya just gotta get a leather retention rig for a traditional kilt though. Sorry Tom. :-)

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Aglifter wrote:Badasses have also worn tunics (Roman Legions), Nothing buy Iron collars (Celtic and German Barbarians.,) etc... Actually, I think most of the world wore kilts/tunics until relatively recently...


Pants were invented thousands of years ago. The Huns made quite an impression with them, though the Huns were not the first to wear them. Anyone with any kind of cavalry tradition wore them (which is why I specifically mentioned the Byzantines).
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Postby Flintlock Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:01 pm

I'm also thinking that a Webley Mark IV would go well with the kilt.
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A Webley? Hoot Mon!
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blackeagle603 wrote:Wouldn't want to offend Stacy and Clinton's sensibilities now would we?


I don't know if it's more alarming that you made this reference or that I understood it.

Something the forum probably does not know, I am conversant in women's fashion and am known to catch the occasional show with Miss G&T.
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I'm still waiting for tactical lederhosen, thanks.
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SoupOrMan wrote:I'm still waiting for tactical lederhosen, thanks.


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blackeagle603 wrote:
Wouldn't want to offend Stacy and Clinton's sensibilities now would we?


I don't know if it's more alarming that you made this reference or that I understood it.

Something the forum probably does not know, I am conversant in women's fashion and am known to catch the occasional show with Miss G&T.

What not to wear is HILARIOUS.


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Second, it IS hilarious. The British gals version is a hoot. Throw these in the mix of cable shows along with OCC, Dirty Jobs, Monster Garage, Mythbusters and Fox News and you've got some fun stuff. That said, I killed all but the most basic channels so don't see any of those anymore.
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Mike OTDP wrote:
SoupOrMan wrote:I'm still waiting for tactical lederhosen, thanks.


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That or maybe a G3 and P7... however, tactical lederhosen must also be able to go with your Blaser K-95 in 7x57.
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Postby Combat Controller » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:33 pm

I much prefer the British version too. Those ladies are always grabbing womens boobs and asses while making witty comments.

I probably ought not to admit this, but I wooed Miss G&T by inviting her to my house to watch Project Runway since she didn't have cable...
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CombatController wrote:Something the forum probably does not know, I am conversant in women's fashion and am known to catch the occasional show with Miss G&T.


That's interesting, since judging from the pictures I've seen, you sure don't know shit about men's fashion! :lol:
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Netpackrat wrote:
CombatController wrote:Something the forum probably does not know, I am conversant in women's fashion and am known to catch the occasional show with Miss G&T.


That's interesting, since judging from the pictures I've seen, you sure don't know shit about men's fashion! :lol:


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Postby SoupOrMan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:20 am

Dude.

The guys who know the most about the bleeding edge of women's fashion?

They couldn't dress themselves if the fate of the world depended on it. Have you ever seen the guys they drag out at the end of those fashion shows to take all the blame?
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You have never seen me dressed up obviously. I will post a pic or two. :shock:
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Postby Kommander » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:40 am

CombatController wrote:You have never seen me dressed up obviously. I will post a pic or two. :shock:


Cause nothing says classy like flames and orange corduroy.

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Postby Cybrludite » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:23 am

Kommander wrote:
CombatController wrote:You have never seen me dressed up obviously. I will post a pic or two. :shock:


Cause nothing says classy like flames and orange corduroy.

To be fair, he didn't specify which decade of mens' fashion...
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Postby Combat Controller » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:22 pm

I am not wearing my Stetson in this picture unfortunately. I forgot to put it on when I took it last night.

The suit is a hand tailored navy super 110 wool, the shirt 600 count cotton also hand tailored. made for me in Hong Kong. The boots are hand tooled leather, if I was not wandering a trade show, it would be Italian leather shoes. The tie is a DKNY, the watch my Air Force issue Rolex, and the eyeglasses Titanium Pro Design from Denmark.

Hmm... the pinstriping is not showing up.

I will post a pic from today later.
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CombatController wrote:The suit and shirt are hand tailored navy super 110 wool, made for me in Hong Kong. The boots are hand tooled leather, if I was not wandering a trade show, it would be Italian leather shoes. The tie is a DKNY, the watch my Air Force issue Rolex, and the eyeglasses Titanium Pro Design from Denmark.


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Postby Aglifter » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 pm

Do we really want a TGC fashion thread???
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Postby Aaron » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:02 pm

Wow. Just wow.

First of all, were all y'all really criticizing CC for his fashion sense? Far as I knew, men weren't supposed to have one of them thingies. Second, CC, did you really post a picture of yourself dressed up in an attempt to rebut said accusations?

Seriously?! :shock:

I think the appropriate reply would have been a doctored photo of some mullet toting goober with your face pasted in.
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Postby Netpackrat » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:18 pm

I haven't laughed that hard in a while, thanks guys. CC, for the record, your outfit probably cost more than my entire wardrobe, with the possible exception of my boots and cold weather gear, so you have to consider the source. Dressing up usually entails wearing my best pair of jeans.
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Postby 1911Man » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:39 pm

Back on topic,...

Fredonline there has pretty reasonable prices on his kilts. Assuming the Brit. pound is still somewhere around $2, his kilts are only about $72. That's cheap by kilt standards. His sporrans are nice too. I need to get a new sporran.

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Postby Aaron » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:30 pm

Just curious, do the winter weight kilts just have thicker, better insulating material, or are they more, uh, folded to take up the empty space underneath?

Heard something like that once.
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LOL, glad I could cheer you up! I am in Las Vegas at a trade show, so I just snapped a pic heading out the door.
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CByrneIV wrote:You wouldn't think anything of a professional mechanic having $20,000 worth of personal hand tools and rollaways would you (never mind the big stuff, like lifts, analyzers etc...)? Well, it's the same thing in big business.


I'm assuming that as in maintenance with toolboxes, lots of the guys in expensive suits are just arrogant posers. Of course, I'm the guy with the more or less nondescript Craftsman rollaway filled with Proto, Stahlwille, Sioux, Starrett, and others, along with more than a few Craftsman tools. I guess the Snappy truck stops by our shop every week or so on my shift, but I've never seen it or met its operator. Fortunately, while I'm in the minority by eschewing Snappy, from what I can tell none of the guys I work with are toolbox posers.
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At one time, cheap tools were too out of spec to be trusted -- that may have changed. Now, at least around the South and Northeast, you still don't want to have any non-US made hand tools around. I've used some Snap-on stuff -- I liked it quite a bit, but I was happy w. craftsman professionals, but they've lowered their quality so much now, I'll probably switch to something else.

At one time, back in the long, long ago, the Wall St. uniform was a blue Brooks Bros. suit -- the execs had custom BB suits. Dad was considered quite "daring" and clearly independent because he would wear Gucci ties and Bally shoes on occasion... but, that was when Wall St. and bankers had something of a "banker" mentality, or at least tried to portray it as such.

At least for the professional culture (legal and oil around Houston) I'm familiar with, having your shirt and suit fit you properly is important - for MOST men, that means you should have it custom made. As long as it's a good fabric, which is always worth paying for, and the suit hangs properly, and has the proper "puckers" around the shoulder, to prove it was hand-sown, I'm not sure that it matters whether it was a designer, or a good tailor in Hong Kong, Seoul, etc.

However, if wearing a 5K Italian or English suit makes you feel like "superman", thn the confidence can be worth it.
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Postby blackeagle603 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:47 pm

Absolutely. Gotta dress for the environment or not be heard/not have needed influence. I have to adjust my dress depending on the particular day's audience inside my company and the many days outside when I'm managing suppliers.

It varies a bit by company and localality but in many SoCal engineering environments the more casual the dress -- the more powerful and influential the engineer or eng mgr. It also varies with the economy. When it gets tight the dress code gets more conservative. If it's a group dominated by Asian immigrant engineers then it gets conservative (but very plain -- tending toward cheesy old school short sleeve button down pocket protector look).

One Eng VP I worked with it was almost 10 years before I saw him in long pants. Another, it was years before I saw him not in bike shorts of some sort and a jersey -- with muddy stripe up the back after lunch most days.
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Postby Aaron » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm

All kidding aside, I know you guys are right.

I'm wearing jeans and t-shirt/polo shirt about 95% of the time, but the actual dollar value of my wardrobe is probably about 95% in formal attire. Not just because it's occasionally required to present a professional appearance, but I refuse to show up for military ceremonies, which I do roughly monthly, for friends who are retiring, getting awards, or promoted dressed like a smuck. Also funerals and wedding and so forth.
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The upside of having a Hong Kong tailor is that the price of the ticket and the hotel are still around what you would pay for ONE suit here, and then you can get four more for the price of that second. Plus you get to go to Hong Kong. I did have some Reed&Taylor suits made for me in India, they supply all the textiles to the Savile Row shop, and I paid $70 each for 2000 sterling pound plus suits. Not a bad deal, and made to my specs. I even designed three suits, to see how they would turn out. Pretty good actually.

I have no idea what I have spent on clothing (or guns), but it became a lot less once I learned about hand made out of the country and got a good name to call.

Looking good is important. As a CEO I have to dress to match my competitors and customers who are doing anywhere from 150 million a year to 9 billion. Those of you who have been guests in my house know I live simply, but that doesn't mean I don't spend money when I need to. It is a tool, just like a lever, you apply the pressure where you need to. It is both brute for and subtle. The subtle pressure works greater and longer though.

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All very true, but I'm still wondering how this devolved into a discussion of men's formal/business wear.
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I think I must be on the other end of the spectrum.
My entire wardrobe is hanging on a dozen hangers on a curtain rod or in a pile on the floor. I own one pair of black pants and three dress shirts. 99% of the time I wear one of two pairs of chinos and one of two company logo polo shirts. I own one pair of jeans and two kilts. One pair black oxford shoes, one pair leather deck shoes and one pair hiking boots.
My mother-in-law likes to give me ties for gifts, so I have two dozen, but only wear them two or three times a year.
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Postby Combat Controller » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:47 pm

Flintlock Tom wrote:I think I must be on the other end of the spectrum.
Next year my oldest son is getting married. I'll probably have to buy a tux.


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Aaron wrote:All very true, but I'm still wondering how this devolved into a discussion of men's formal/business wear.


Considering that it started out as a discussion of men wearing dresses, the thread drift should be viewed as a good thing.
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It's not a dress. It's a kilt, Sicko!
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Netpackrat wrote:
Aaron wrote:All very true, but I'm still wondering how this devolved into a discussion of men's formal/business wear.


Considering that it started out as a discussion of men wearing dresses, the thread drift should be viewed as a good thing.


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I don't care how you self justify it, you're still a guy wearing a dress. Or skirt, whatever. :shock:
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Netpackrat wrote:I don't care how you self justify it, you're still a guy wearing a dress. Or skirt, whatever. :shock:


Worse, it requires unrestrained Wedding Tackle and the discussion thereof.
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Netpackrat wrote:I don't care how you self justify it, you're still a guy wearing a dress. Or skirt, whatever. :shock:


The distinction between skirt and dress is important. With a dress you have to worry about inappropriately plunging necklines.

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apparently the reference to Jim Carey's line in "The Grinch" went by ya. Sick-o! :-)

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blackeagle603 wrote:apparently the reference to Jim Carey's line in "The Grinch" went by ya. Sick-o! :-)


I find most of Jim Carey's humor disgusting and inane, so I don't generally watch his movies.
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I find most of Jim Carey's humor disgusting and inane,


reason enough for me! :lol: :lol: :lol:


never could sit through any of his early stuff (pet detective etc). The Grinch has been worn out around our house with kids.
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This is a classic Gun Counter thread. I love it and all that it stands for.
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Of course, the important thing is to accessorize properly. For example, an AKM just wouldn't look right with this suit.

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Here is what I wore the next day...
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You look like a Texas Oil Man in that hat.

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Kommander wrote:You look like a Texas Oil Man in that hat.


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Kommander wrote:Utilikilts are good for a number common outdoor and inddor activities. These Include:

Work:



We have been told not to wear our Utilikilts to work. apparently the Air Force has Zero sense of Humor.

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The other pic...
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Postby viper32cm » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:10 am

I find this all a little bit hillarious because desipte my job (lawyer) I rarely if ever worry about dress.

I work in a satallite office of a Lafayette, Louisiana law firm. Which would seems a little backwards since New Orleans is the bigger place... The named partners dislike dressing up in the office, so I've had a somewhat "progressive" professional experience.

I rarely wear a suit to the office. Ditto a tie. Usually it is some sort of khaki pant or other dress pant plus a button down shirt. I have a blue blazer with a neutral tie hanging for "just in case" moments.

Suit up when you go to court, suit up when you go to a deposition, suit up when you meet some clients.

Other than that, its pretty much ok so long as it has a collar on it.

I have four suits. One is a seersucker for summer only, and the rest (a grey, blue, and black) are for pretty much anytime wear. Steinmart is my tailor, and it works for me for the time being.

I imagine that will change if/when I move back to Atlanta, but I'm going to enjoy it for the time being.

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CByrneIV wrote:By the by, I have similar kit. I think I've got about $30k in suits, and about $10k in shoes; never mind the watches, shirts, and ties.

Some situations require dressing well. Not only that, but dressing well and APPROPRIATELY, is both a duty, and a privilege, accorded gentlemen.

A guy my size, if you want a GOOD suit, it generally has to be custom made, and that starts around $1200 and goes up over $5,000. Same thing for good shirts ($100 to $500). At least I can buy normal size shoes (I'm a 12-1/2, so I usually have to buy 13), so good shoes only run from $300 to $2000 usually. Ties are all over the place, but a typical mid range silk piece will run from $100 to $700. I generally prefer not to wear them if I don't have to; but I've got a dozen decent ties, probably 20 decent shirts, maybe 10 good suits, and five good pairs of dress shoes or dress low boots.

That's really what I consider the minimum wardrobe of business attire, when you work in a setting where good business attire is required; not only by dress code, but simply to be taken seriously.

It may be incongruous to think of me that way; but you have to remember I AM a senior exec at a bank, and I didn't get there by accident. Yes, I wear jeans and a golf shirt 90% of the time, but not always.

Only pic I have of me in a suit is... 5 years old I think? Almost six? Should have been around Christmas 2003...

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That's a Fioravanti suit (custom made), a Brioni silk shirt; and you can't see it but I'm wearing a Breitling Navitimer, and John Lobb low dress boots.

In that pic I'm probably wearing $15,000, a third of which was the suit (I commissioned two Fioravantis, for $10,000; and at the time that was a steal. They can run up to $25,000 a piece).

If I remember correctly, I was on my way out to Ruths Chris in midtown Manhattan.

At the time I was living at 86th and 3rd, but a few weeks later I moved down to 39th and 2nd because it was closer to where I was working (42nd and 3rd, across from the Chrysler building). My girlfriend at the time (a ridiculously skinny German ex model who worked for American Airlines) and I were dining with the CTO of Pfizer, and some senior VPs from Cisco and McAffee.

I've still got the suits actually, and the shoes. A good suit like that, never goes out of style. Of course the gut has expanded somewhat since then (like 100lbs... no joke), and good shoes can last a lifetime.


Which raises the question...do you have any advice on shopping for a bespoke suit? I don't normally need one, but a gentleman really MUST have a properly fitting suit and blue blazer in his wardrobe. And I'm built like a beer barrel, so bespoke is the only realistic option for me.

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Mike OTDP wrote:Which raises the question...do you have any advice on shopping for a bespoke suit? I don't normally need one, but a gentleman really MUST have a properly fitting suit and blue blazer in his wardrobe. And I'm built like a beer barrel, so bespoke is the only realistic option for me.


I get my suits made in Singapore. I can only echo what CC said above - for the price of one or two "bespoke" suits bought locally - which would still be sewn in India or Singapore, or Hong Kong from measurements taken and e-mailed off by the local tailor - I can buy half a dozen or more there, and have a nice holiday as well.

I find it's important to know exactly what you want before you go to the shop - the Singaporean tailors are good, but they show absolutely no flair for design and not much initiative. The easiest thing is to bring a photograph from a magazine of a suit style that you like, and they will reproduce it in your choice of fabric to your measurements. They'll also do a bunch of matching shirts - be sure to insist on pure cotton cloth for those (they'll try to fob you off with polyester). If you are not "petit" for a westerner, forget about buying ties made in the Far East, they'll barely go around your neck. They still might throw in a few ties free with suits and shirts, which I suppose you can give away to skinny people at home.

One thing which works ncely - in Singapore, there are loads of tailors, all competing. They have shills on the street offering low prices. Nail them down on price before you order anything, and don't let them try to worm out of the offer price by telling you the quoted on the street for a suit is only valid if you bring your own fabric, or somesuch.

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CByrneIV wrote:Interesting... an askmen article about outsourcing your custom tailoring to Hong Kong remotely:

http://www.askmen.com/fashion/fashionti ... dvice.html


There's a Hong Kong tailor here in Brussels. You call him, he comes to the office with mhis easuring tape and fabric swatches, and he has the stuff made up over there. They send a try-on suit for a fitting, then finish the real suit(s) based on that.

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Postby Mike OTDP » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:03 am

Chris;

I live in the Washington DC area...at least, that is the least distant city (70 miles up the North road)

A suit to fit me is pretty well a fantasy. I'm barrel-shaped, around size 64, with a 98th percentile seated eye height - and a 50th percentile standing height (which means that I have very short legs). Nothing fits. That's why I'm looking at bespoke.

I might give that Web site a try.

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Postby Kommander » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:26 pm

I would just like to add here that if you wore a kilt you wouldn't have to worry about bespoke suits.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:45 pm

Being a son of a Scot immigrant the oriiginal discussion of kilts is a bittersweet thing. On the one hand getting back to a kilt is a bonnie idea. On the other hand, the cost of a proper kilt with quality materials is enough to make a thrifty Scotsman weep.
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So I guess the question is, "What kind of deal could you make with one of these tailors for a bespoke kilt?" Maybe have enough left over for a Prince Charlie jacket and a tam...

Might just have to get a pattern and dig out the Missus sewing machine...
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Postby blackeagle603 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:03 am

I'm thinking Hong Kong or Singapore pricing. You talking Stateside pricing?
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Postby Denis » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:12 am

CByrneIV wrote:
blackeagle603 wrote:I'm thinking Hong Kong or Singapore pricing. You talking Stateside pricing?



If you want a bespoke kilt done properly in Asia, you're going to need to buy 5-9 yards of high quality tartan wool here, or in Europe; and bring it with you.


I'd have my doubts about finding a tailor with enough kilt know-how.

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Postby Mike OTDP » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:05 pm

Kommander wrote:I would just like to add here that if you wore a kilt you wouldn't have to worry about bespoke suits.


No, but you have to worry about bespoke kilts. As Chris noted, they run about $500.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:15 am

big savings on underwear though. :lol:
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Postby Evyl Robot » Wed May 19, 2010 2:39 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Fracking LOL!

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Postby Rich » Wed May 19, 2010 3:27 pm

I've owned three suits in my lifetime, not counting Air Force dress uniforms.

The three were bought for specific occasions and after being worn once, were put away, never to be worn again. I find suits and ties physically uncomfortable and I now actually go out of my way to avoid situations where playing dress up is a requirement. At the present time, I no longer own a suit or any combination of clothing that could be assembled into a suit.

That said, I find this thread hilarious.

BTW Kommander, I think kilts have another advantage. After running away, you (if (un)dressed appropriately) don't have to clean out your shorts afterward.
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Postby Evyl Robot » Wed May 19, 2010 5:13 pm

I don't care how you self justify it, you're still a guy wearing a dress. Or skirt, whatever. :shock:


It drives the ladies crazy though! My wife and I swung by the mall right after my brother's wedding. I was still wearing my kilt when we walked in. I've never seen so many women turn to drool at me. I'm glad my wife was with me because otherwise I might have been mauled! That must be how attractive men feel. :lol:

Oh yeah, suits! I usually buy designer label stuff second hand and either tailor it myself or take it to the Korean dude a couple miles from here - depending on how the finances are at the moment. I suit up on Sundays, but that's about it. My daily uniform is a pair of jeans, unprinted t-shirt, exotic hide cowboy boots, cowboy hat, and usually a Versace or Armani sport coat. I like to call this 'Redneck Couture.'

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Postby Aglifter » Wed May 19, 2010 6:25 pm

Admittedly, I had a mis-spent youth, which required an inordinate amount of time in a suit and tie, but, if one fits you properly, they should be quite comfortable - There's no way, that I know of, to make a decent looking jacket or tie comfortable in hot weather - although you can usually get away w. linen or a seersucker if its that hot - but proper wool pants should feel like you're not wearing any.
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Postby Aglifter » Wed May 19, 2010 6:26 pm

Evyl Robot wrote:. My daily uniform is a pair of jeans, unprinted t-shirt, exotic hide cowboy boots, cowboy hat, and usually a Versace or Armani sport coat. I like to call this 'Redneck Couture.'


By any chance are you a TX attorney? That's pretty much the standard uniform, except w. a button down, starched white shirt.
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Postby blackeagle603 » Wed May 19, 2010 6:52 pm

Tom showed up in a kilt with Mrs. Flintlock for the HS musical. My wife was working the ticket booth and eldest daughter was helping me usher. They responded favorably to the "look." Hmmm, is it the beginning of a thaw on the homefront? Is there finally glimmer of hope for the domestic six to support a kilt in my future?
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Postby Jered » Sun May 23, 2010 8:57 pm

It's the whole airflow...
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Postby Evyl Robot » Mon May 24, 2010 5:10 am

By any chance are you a TX attorney? That's pretty much the standard uniform, except w. a button down, starched white shirt.


Nope. I'm an Okie. And, I'm a self-employed holster maker aspiring to make belts and wallets and hatbands and ladies' handbags and... ...etc. But, that's a story for a different thread. In a different timeline, it might actually have been easier to be a TX attorney, but I'm not complaining about how the cards were dealt.

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Postby Combat Controller » Mon May 24, 2010 5:46 am

I need a holster made and perhaps one for a ladies purse as well.
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Re: Utilikilts!

Postby Legman688 » Mon May 24, 2010 10:39 pm

Also, guys, forget Utilikilts, they're hideously overpriced. Go to Sportkilts instead, the quality is very good and the prices are much more reasonable:

http://www.sportkilt.com/index.php

http://www.sportkilt.com/category/51/Commando-Kilt.html
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