Keep it. Shoot it. Love it.
Seriously. I have an 1891, and it's a dream. Light recoil, plenty accurate, fun to shoot. I'm with HTRN on the dies, the bullets are easy enough to come by, you can buy loaded Hornady ammo to get brass, it's pretty simple. And around here, the Hornady stuff isn't much more than equivalent .30-06.
What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
Standing for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!workinwifdakids wrote: We've thus far avoided the temptation to jack an entire forum.
But what the hell.
Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
Hey surplus Argentine IS available, if the barrel is in good condition, why change it? You can either keep it, ot sell it. I bought a Czech VZ-24 as a basis for a 300 WinMag, and discarded the effort when I happened to find an exceptionally nice and inexpensive Savage. I can almost guarantee, buying a new Stevens will be cheaper than converting your Argentine.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
1)The bore size is generally .311, so setting back the barrel is not an option.D5CAV wrote:HTRN, I was hoping you would give me some pointers!
2)The nominal rim size is .473, so there's no need to change or modify the bolt.
3)Commercial ammo is available - both Norma($36/20) and Prvi Partizan($16/20) makes it.
4)Brass is available from Norma, roughly $110/100
5)A barrel job will set you back anywhere from $250 and up, depending on what you want done - bluing, iron sights, ribs, barrel bands, high end barrel makers all will add to the price. Compare that with the $600 for a new Savage or CZ.
Personally, I wouldn't bother. If you want a 308 - there are hundreds of thousands of 'em out there.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
+1 on leaving it alone. The '91 actions aren't as strong and lack the claw extractor, and extra locking lug of the later '98 actions. But, if you really want another .308 then a new barrel is all that's needed.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
That or trade or sell it for a .308 and let the collector have fun with it.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
AZMARK, This one is a '98 action, not a '91 action. It is marked "Argentino Modelo 1909" made in Berlin.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
Thanks! I was afraid it would need a new barrel. That makes the project more trouble than it's worth. I will banish this rifle to the back of the safe for the time being.HTRN wrote:1)The bore size is generally .311, so setting back the barrel is not an option.D5CAV wrote:HTRN, I was hoping you would give me some pointers!
2)The nominal rim size is .473, so there's no need to change or modify the bolt.
3)Commercial ammo is available - both Norma($36/20) and Prvi Partizan($16/20) makes it.
4)Brass is available from Norma, roughly $110/100
5)A barrel job will set you back anywhere from $250 and up, depending on what you want done - bluing, iron sights, ribs, barrel bands, high end barrel makers all will add to the price. Compare that with the $600 for a new Savage or CZ.
Personally, I wouldn't bother. If you want a 308 - there are hundreds of thousands of 'em out there.
HTRN
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
Rebarreling does not have to be an expensive operation. 98 Mauser barrels are around $90 at Midway, add a finish reamer and borrow a set of gauges and you are good to go.
Or for the same price you could get a Lee aniversery kit and load your own. Other than needing .311 bullets, loading for the Argentine is no different than loading any other 30 cal rifle.
Or for the same price you could get a Lee aniversery kit and load your own. Other than needing .311 bullets, loading for the Argentine is no different than loading any other 30 cal rifle.
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
They're Adams and Bennett barrels, and they're CRAP.
Even at $90, you still have to buy a reamer($100) and gauges($80). Thats $270. If if you rent a reamer and gauges, you'll still clock in another 30 bucks, and I'd be willing to bet the accuracy won't be that great. Then there's the matter of sights - it won't have any.
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Even at $90, you still have to buy a reamer($100) and gauges($80). Thats $270. If if you rent a reamer and gauges, you'll still clock in another 30 bucks, and I'd be willing to bet the accuracy won't be that great. Then there's the matter of sights - it won't have any.
HTRN
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Re: What to do with a 7.65 Argentine?
There is also the need for an action wrench and barrel vise.