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Denis
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HTRN wrote:Ah for the good old days, when a 10 year old could mail order a WW2 surplus Mauser 1898 and 1911 from his chore money..
The good old days, when 10-year-olds still did chores.

Wait.

Kids in the US get money for doing chores?

Truly it is the promised land and the streets are paved with gold...
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Denis wrote:
HTRN wrote:Ah for the good old days, when a 10 year old could mail order a WW2 surplus Mauser 1898 and 1911 from his chore money..
The good old days, when 10-year-olds still did chores.

Wait.

Kids in the US get money for doing chores?

Truly it is the promised land and the streets are paved with gold...
Some of the richer families used to, before the dark times, before liberalism. Now teaching a child how to manage money is all but a crime, and requiring them to do any kind of chore is considered abuse.
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HTRN wrote:
Denis wrote:
HTRN wrote:Google solothurn ad and then check the images.
It is to weep...
Ah for the good old days, when a 10 year old could mail order a WW2 surplus Mauser 1898 and 1911 from his chore money..
I just read a great post about that on Paw Paw's blog, including the original advertising for my Ruger Mark I:

http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.be/2016/01/freedom.html
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The best way to build shooters is one person at a time. Everybody has their "first time" wnen they twitch the trigger and something comes out the other end of the gun. It's our responsibility to make that a pleasant, safe, fun experience. The more they enjoy it, the more they'll want to experience it again.

I talk about that this morning at my blog.

http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.com/2016/0 ... ey_17.html
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kapikui wrote: Now teaching a child how to manage money is all but a crime, and requiring them to do any kind of chore is considered abuse.

:jacked:

Yeah, even among fellow home-schoolers, money management is missing from the curriculum. I like Ron Blue's Master Your Money.

My four oldest children have chores. When they complain about them I tell them to read "Farmer Boy" again and then they can tell me how "hard" their life is.
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John_in_Longview wrote:
kapikui wrote: Now teaching a child how to manage money is all but a crime, and requiring them to do any kind of chore is considered abuse.

:jacked:

Yeah, even among fellow home-schoolers, money management is missing from the curriculum. I like Ron Blue's Master Your Money.

My four oldest children have chores. When they complain about them I tell them to read "Farmer Boy" again and then they can tell me how "hard" their life is.
I really like Father's explanation of money in the book.

"It's work, son."
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JAG2955 wrote:
John_in_Longview wrote:
kapikui wrote: Now teaching a child how to manage money is all but a crime, and requiring them to do any kind of chore is considered abuse.

:jacked:

Yeah, even among fellow home-schoolers, money management is missing from the curriculum. I like Ron Blue's Master Your Money.

My four oldest children have chores. When they complain about them I tell them to read "Farmer Boy" again and then they can tell me how "hard" their life is.
I really like Father's explanation of money in the book.

"It's work, son."
Actually, the idea that money is a representation of labor has a very vile background which drives you down a very bad path if you follow that road. That was Karl Marx's take on monetary theory and if you trace out a lot of his weird ideas (and other weird ideas that follow with those who tried to implement his theories) it can be traced back to that error.

It is actually rather complex concept either way, but the probably the best way to think of it is as a good (in the noun sense, like "goods and services") which is why its value goes up and down depending on the quantity available relative to the demand.
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Denis wrote:
HTRN wrote:Ah for the good old days, when a 10 year old could mail order a WW2 surplus Mauser 1898 and 1911 from his chore money..
The good old days, when 10-year-olds still did chores.

Wait.

Kids in the US get money for doing chores?

Truly it is the promised land and the streets are paved with gold...
Um, you would be surprised.
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Vonz90 wrote:Actually, the idea that money is a representation of labor has a very vile background which drives you down a very bad path if you follow that road. That was Karl Marx's take on monetary theory and if you trace out a lot of his weird ideas (and other weird ideas that follow with those who tried to implement his theories) it can be traced back to that error.

It is actually rather complex concept either way, but the probably the best way to think of it is as a good (in the noun sense, like "goods and services") which is why its value goes up and down depending on the quantity available relative to the demand.
That might make an interesting thread. I'd always considered it as a way to store the product of work/time/knowledge for exchange later.

The theory of money is interesting, complex, and ofttimes confusing.
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Vonz90 wrote:
JAG2955 wrote:
John_in_Longview wrote:
:jacked:

Yeah, even among fellow home-schoolers, money management is missing from the curriculum. I like Ron Blue's Master Your Money.

My four oldest children have chores. When they complain about them I tell them to read "Farmer Boy" again and then they can tell me how "hard" their life is.
I really like Father's explanation of money in the book.

"It's work, son."
Actually, the idea that money is a representation of labor has a very vile background which drives you down a very bad path if you follow that road. That was Karl Marx's take on monetary theory and if you trace out a lot of his weird ideas (and other weird ideas that follow with those who tried to implement his theories) it can be traced back to that error.

It is actually rather complex concept either way, but the probably the best way to think of it is as a good (in the noun sense, like "goods and services") which is why its value goes up and down depending on the quantity available relative to the demand.
Well, I shortened it, and rather took it out of context.

If you haven't read it, they're at a town fair/gathering/holiday or whatever. Almanzo's dick cousin is showing off some of the stuff that he has, like a winter cap and jack knife. So Almanzo asks his father for a nickel or quarter or something for some food or to buy something. Been a long time since I read it, and it's somewhere on a double-stacked bookshelf. Instead of giving a nickel to his son, he gives him a lecture on earning money. Then he tells him that he can spend it on candy, or he can buy a suckling pig to raise and sell for more money.

Besides, it's a children's book.
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