CO student was suspended standing up to bully when attacked

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SCHOOLS ARE NOT THERE TO DISPENSE JUSTICE. They are there to enforce ORDER.
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Yogimus wrote:SCHOOLS ARE NOT THERE TO DISPENSE JUSTICE. They are there to enforce ORDER.
And try to enforce conformity.
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308Mike wrote:
Yogimus wrote:SCHOOLS ARE NOT THERE TO DISPENSE JUSTICE. They are there to enforce ORDER.
And try to enforce conformity.
In some cases schools silently allow bullying, and just stop short of openly promote it. Many of the people running them are leftists, and leftists tend to view bullying as "the oppressed fighting back". Because it's usually the kids that don't fit into the collective that gets targeted, the kid that is a bit brighter, has an interest that isn't collectively accepted, or is more talented in other ways. These are people that leftists and socialists thrive see no use for, so they have no problem if them being bullied or attacked.

Personally I wonder why the parents don't press charges against the teachers for child endangerment. The school is actively forbidding the kid from defending himself, yet refuses to protect him by dealing with the situation. They're basically forcing him onto a raft without a lifesaver on, and forbidding him to swim for shore.

A friend of mine had his own solution to a bully in a similar situation. The next time he saw the bully he attacked him without any warning and really hurt the guy. Sure, he got in trouble again, but he never had anyone try to bully him ever again.
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Erik wrote:In some cases schools silently allow bullying, and just stop short of openly promote it.
Welcome to my childhood. It was always bad, and got worse when my dad was on the city council. Seems a lot of people didn't appreciate a pro resource development, fiscal conservative. Some of whom (and their children) are only alive, because it is against the law to kill them.
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randy wrote:Darlin' Daughter's instructions are to never start a fight, but if attacked she is to take the bastard/bitch out. CINCHOUSE and I will deal with the administration.
Bravo!
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I'm going to save up a bunch of old glow-in-the-dark watches and get some surgical equipment. If I ever have kids, I will explain the concept of MAD to them, why their stomachs hurt, and why they set off alarms at airports, and are absolutely not to be fucked with.

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"If a student is involved in a physical altercation on school property, they are automatically suspended,"
We know that to communicate you have to speak in the language of the other person. The Japanese say you have to sell in the language of the customer. To communicate to bullies that you are not to be bullied requires you say something the bully understands, which may include “percussive therapy”.
Erik wrote:Personally I wonder why the parents don't press charges against the teachers for child endangerment. The school is actively forbidding the kid from defending himself, yet refuses to protect him by dealing with the situation. They're basically forcing him onto a raft without a lifesaver on, and forbidding him to swim for shore.
The key to this is to document each incident, so that there is a paper trail showing abdication of duties and endangerment by the school officials. If the school Principal (problem #1 at schools: The head administrator is called “the most important part”) knows a letter will come to his office each time a student is bullied, SOMETHING will be done. Your child may be marked for expulsion because you have the temerity to insist the school administration make moral judgments based on the law they claim to respect and uphold, but you will have a record.

And how much of this bullying is tacitly encouraged by the parents, who believe something on the order of, " My child is bossy and pushy, he will be a manager and leader someday"?
Most parents when confronted by the school react something along the lines of, "Stop picking on my kid," which isn't going to encourage obedience.
The use of the word "but" usually indicates that everything preceding it in a sentence is a lie.
E.g.:
"I believe in Freedom of Speech, but". . .
"I support the Second Amendment, but". . .
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JAG2955 wrote:
308Mike wrote: "If a student is involved in a physical altercation on school property, they are automatically suspended,"
Well, that's much easier than thinking...
Zero Tolerance policies have nothing to do with "thinking" and everything to do with litigation.
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HTRN wrote:
JAG2955 wrote:
308Mike wrote: "If a student is involved in a physical altercation on school property, they are automatically suspended,"
Well, that's much easier than thinking...
Zero Tolerance policies have nothing to do with "thinking" and everything to do with litigation.
Don't care. Integrity is about doing the right thing because it's the right thing, no matter the consequences. It's being lost in America.
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Sorry, but the reason why these policies were enacted was to ward off litigation when the little special snowflake gets suspended for starting a fight and not the kid who was innocent victim decides that the school was unfair and sues. Enough school districts were nearly bankrupted by successful lawsuits that it scared the rest into enacting these policies. Anytime you have somebody making a judgement call that goes against little Johnny, the parents have the nasty habit of speed dialing their lawyer.
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