Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

The place to talk about knives, swords, edged weapons, sticks and impact weapons, restraints, and and the techniques and tools for preparedness and survival without firearms.
User avatar
SeekHer
Posts: 2286
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:27 am

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by SeekHer »

New Blade Blog postings:
Antique Ivory Exceptions Rule Too Stringent
http://www.blademag.com/blog/steve-shac ... ban-update
Majority Opposes Ivory Ban At Meeting
http://www.blademag.com/blog/steve-shac ... an-meeting
Radio Show Addressed Ivory Ban
http://www.blademag.com/blog/steve-shac ... ry-morning
Act Now To Fight Ivory Ban
http://www.blademag.com/blog/steve-shac ... =235963571
There is a certain type of mentality that thinks if you make certain inanimate objects illegal their criminal misuse will disappear!

Damn the TSA and Down with the BATF(u)E!
Support the J P F O to "Give them the Boot"!!
User avatar
308Mike
Posts: 16537
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by 308Mike »

If you're so inclined to want to help stop this huge government over-reach (from SeekHer's last link above):
Act Now To Fight Ivory Ban
By: Steve Shackleford | March 5, 2014

If you think it’s too late for you to do anything about the oppressive ivory ban being implemented by federal officials, think again.
Ivory ban is unjust.

With federal officials saying elephant ivory is being disguised to resemble fossil ivory in some cases, authentic fossil ivory pieces such as Jerry Fisk’s majestic bowie could attract undeserved scrutiny from law enforcement. (Chuck Ward photo)

You can act now to have your voice heard by congressional and federal officials to stop more language adverse to those who buy, sell and collect ivory knives being added to the federal government’s “use after import” regulations.

One of the issues that apparently remains unsettled in the official language of the new ban is the exact wording concerning the legality of the sale of ivory, including ivory knives, across state lines. The updated regulations are due to be completed and released sometime in April, sources said.

As a result, you have time to contact your representative and other federal officials now before it’s too late. For more on the specifics of the ban, frequently asked questions and more, visit http://www.fws.gov/

To determine the name and contact information for your Congressional representative, visit http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

In addition, make your views known to Sally Jewell, Secretary of the Interior, and Daniel M. Ashe, director of U.S. Fish and Wildlife. The mailing address for the Department of the Interior is 1849 C St., NW, Washington, DC 20240. It can be reached by phone at 202-208-3100 or e-mail at feedback@ios.doi.gov. The mailing address for U.S. Fish and Wildlife is 4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Arlington, VA 22203.

We recommend hitting all of them on all fronts—by phone, e-mail and snail mail. They say a written letter carries more weight, so it may be time to break out the pen and paper and attack this issue old-school style.

For the latest knives, knife news, trends and more, stay tuned to www.blademag.com.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON

A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.

I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
User avatar
SeekHer
Posts: 2286
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:27 am

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by SeekHer »

2 Bills Introduced in Congress to Protect Ivory Knife Owners

Legislation Introduced in Congress to Protect Owners of
Ivory Handled and Ivory Decorated Knives

Would Stop Federal Ban on Decades-old Legal Ivory
Reaffirms Proven Anti-Poaching & Conservation Policies

Legislation to stop the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from seriously harming millions of Americans by unnecessarily banning interstate commerce of decades-old legal ivory and products containing legal ivory, such as ivory handled and ivory decorated knives, was introduced in both the House and the Senate. Representatives Steve Daines (MT) and Jeff Miller (FL) sponsored H.R. 5052, and Senator Lamar Alexander (TN) sponsored S. 2587. These bills complement a House appropriations bill passed out of sub-committee on July 9th that would defund Fish and Wildlife Service' enforcement of its irrational new ivory policy that needlessly punishes innocent Americans, while allowing the Administration to protect African elephants and other wildlife from poaching.

Please CALL or EMAIL your Representative and Senators TODAY and ask them to Co-Sponsor H.R. 5052 and S. 2587.

Find your Representative: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
Find your Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm

Or, you can find them via the Open Congress website: http://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup

All you need to do when you call or email is ask them to Co-Sponsor the bill. If emailing, use the Subject: Please Co-Sponsor [insert bill number H.R. 5052 or S. 2587, as appropriate].

Both bills are carefully crafted to allow the Administration to combat African elephant poaching and criminal organizations that sell illicit ivory in China. The bills protect innocent Americans, including knife owners, who have complied with existing import prohibitions on antiques and the large stocks of ivory that have been in the United States for over 25 years. It protects the owners of musical instruments, knives, firearms, canes and a multitude of other items that include this decades-old legal ivory.

Both bills would prohibit the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) from implementing any new rule, order, or standard regarding the sale and trade in ivory that wasn't in place prior to Feb. 25, 2014. That is the date a Director's Order initiated a process which would essentially make criminals of anyone who sells or trades ivory or any item containing even the smallest amount of ivory, such as ivory handled or ivory decorated knives, even though the item or the ivory in it was legally imported into the U.S. decades ago prior to the existing bans. The new Administration policy would devalue billions of dollars of legal property from tens of millions of law-abiding Americans, essentially an unconstitutional government taking.

Existing import restrictions that have been in place for 25 years exemplify the U.S. world leadership in protecting elephants by stopping illegal ivory from entering our country. Virtually all the trade in poached ivory occurs in China. The USFWS' and world bodies' extensive monitoring of illegal ivory shows that illegal ivory trade into the U.S. is not significant, and when found, is aggressively prosecuted. This legislation would stop USFWS from wasting resources on prosecuting innocent Americans and focus on criminals in Africa and Asia.

Sen. Alexander said, "the Obama administration's announced plan to limit the trade of legal ivory-such as that found in legally produced guitars, pianos, and firearms - could prohibit musicians from buying or selling instruments that contain ivory, prevent firearms and family heirlooms containing ivory from being sold, and pose a significant threat to antique businesses."

Rep. Daines said, "[m]any Montana families own ivory-containing firearms or musical instruments that have been passed down from generation to generation and represent an important part of their way of life or heritage. This legislation will protect law-abiding citizens who own an antique firearm, instrument, or other family heirloom that happens to contain ivory from the Director's Order, which only punishes law-abiding Americans instead of seriously addressing the real problem of elephant poaching."

Knife Rights condemns the illegal slaughter of elephants and supports practical efforts to stop the poaching and trade in illegal ivory, but this Administration's effort to outlaw legal ivory that's been in the U.S. for decades, including ivory handled and ivory decorated knives, will not save a single elephant. The Administration has not shown any evidence that this policy change that unfairly impacts millions of law-abiding Americans will have any effect on poaching or the trade in illegal ivory. All it will do is harm law-abiding Americans.

Please CALL or EMAIL your Representative and Senators TODAY and ask them to Co-Sponsor H.R. 5052 and S. 2587.

This is going to be a tough fight; the supporters of this irrational and unfair ban are well-organized and well-financed. However, if we all pull together, we have a chance to beat this. CALL or EMAIL your Representative and Senators TODAY!

Posted by Doug Ritter, July 14, 2014 at 0828 at I Knife Collector!
Last edited by SeekHer on Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
There is a certain type of mentality that thinks if you make certain inanimate objects illegal their criminal misuse will disappear!

Damn the TSA and Down with the BATF(u)E!
Support the J P F O to "Give them the Boot"!!
User avatar
Yogimus
Posts: 4922
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:32 am

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by Yogimus »

Want to save the elephant? Make ivory farming legal.
BDK
Posts: 1698
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:14 pm

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by BDK »

Elephants are doing from just fine to excessively well in countries where hunting is legal.

It's in places like Kenya, which follow all the idiots policies to a T, where the wildlife is in trouble.
User avatar
D5CAV
Posts: 2428
Joined: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:48 am

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by D5CAV »

Cui bono?

http://archive.lewrockwell.com/fontova/fontova39.html

This is not hyperbole. I talked to some old Africa hands about Kenya. They told me Kenyatta's wife owned the biggest ivory distributor in Mombasa. When Kenyatta banned elephant hunting, she won two ways - ivory prices went up and tusk prices went down. Export price of ivory went up because it was "banned". Tusk prices went down because she was now buying from poachers who sold for "fence" prices and not licensed hunters who wanted market prices.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
User avatar
SeekHer
Posts: 2286
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:27 am

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by SeekHer »

Latest update from Blade Mag Blog:

Lawful Ivory Protection Act Needs Your Help!
By: Steve Shackleford
July 21, 2014
Designed to both protect African elephants and stop making criminals of innocent citizens who sell legal ivory, the Lawful Ivory Protection Act is making headway in both the House and Senate and needs your help—especially in the Senate.

“The House Interior Appropriations bill that will essentially not allow funds—your tax dollars and mine—to be used to enforce the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service changes to the ivory laws has passed the first hurdle,” noted Sandra Brady, scrimshander and member of the Elephant Protection Association. “It made it through Appropriations and is now on to the full House for a vote.” It is unknown when that vote will be.

“Next, H.R. 5052 is getting increased support but the Senate bill, S. 2587, isn’t, so call your senators!” Brady emphasized.

Read more ......
There is a certain type of mentality that thinks if you make certain inanimate objects illegal their criminal misuse will disappear!

Damn the TSA and Down with the BATF(u)E!
Support the J P F O to "Give them the Boot"!!
User avatar
Vonz90
Posts: 4731
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:05 pm

Re: Feds Ban Trade of Elephant Ivory

Post by Vonz90 »

Yogimus wrote:Want to save the elephant? Make ivory farming legal.
+1, Rhino farms too.
Post Reply