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Langenator wrote:FYI:

Per TPC 46.035 (b)(6) "A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a shoulder or belt holster, on or about the license holder's person...on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship."
This must be why the number of dead were so high compared to the shooting in Colorado some years back. This murderer had a rifle and shot through the walls of the sanctuary and two neighbors had to intervene.
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Yahoo is reporting that the Air Force didn't put this guy into NICS.
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Jered wrote:Yahoo is reporting that the Air Force didn't put this guy into NICS.
The AF already admitted they didn’t put him in NICS appropriately. Wow. There are definitely some careers circling the bowl over that.
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g-man wrote:
Jered wrote:Yahoo is reporting that the Air Force didn't put this guy into NICS.
The AF already admitted they didn’t put him in NICS appropriately. Wow. There are definitely some careers circling the bowl over that.
You'd like to think that, certainly. But I don't understand why you think it's likely.
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Confirmed that Willeford used an AR-15 to stop the murderer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y ... pp=desktop
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In summary:

The Airforce and/or the Feds dropped the ball, and did not put Kelley in the the system.

Kelley applied for a Texas CCW permit. The State of Texas did their background check, discovered disqualifing factors, and denied him.

So the Feds failed; the State of Texas did not.

AND, Kelley was stopped by two ordinary armed citizens, not the Feds, or the state/local police.

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Greg wrote:
g-man wrote:
Jered wrote:Yahoo is reporting that the Air Force didn't put this guy into NICS.
The AF already admitted they didn’t put him in NICS appropriately. Wow. There are definitely some careers circling the bowl over that.
You'd like to think that, certainly. But I don't understand why you think it's likely.
USA Today reported that his conviction came from a General Court Martial, making the conviction equivalent to a felony. So he was doubly disqualified.

The AF dorked up entering him into NCIC, but the screw up was probably made by a junior civilian employee or junior enlisted, of the paralegal or data entry clerk persuasion. Not sure anyone gets roasted over that.

I saw one report, I forget where, that the shooter emptied 15x 30 round mags - 450 rounds.

So this guy was convicted of beating his first wife and kid (baby). The baby had a cracked skull. He was later arrested for beating a dog. He's a grade-A sh*tbag (calling him that is doing a disservice to manure, which is actually useful) and a poster child for people who "just need killin' ". The guy was sending up red flags like a California ranger station in September after a 5 year drought. The sh*tty part is he killed a bunch of innocent people before he got what he deserved.
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Netpackrat wrote:Confirmed that Willeford used an AR-15 to stop the murderer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y ... pp=desktop
Great interview.
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According to CBS he "escaped" from a mental health facility.
Devin Patrick Kelley: What we know about the Texas church shooting suspect Devin Kelley was sent to the Peak Behavioral Health Services Center in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, but escaped on June 13, 2012, fleeing to El Paso, Texas, according to the report.
El Paso police arrested Kelley without incident at a bus stop and turned him over to New Mexico police.
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