Weetabix wrote:JustinR wrote:Greg wrote:Are there limits to what a flight crew is authorized to instruct you?
Is it against Federal law to disobey a flight crew that instructs you to rape that lady in the aisle in front of you?
That's a ridiculous argument Greg, and you know it. The law exists for the purpose of the safety of the passengers on board, and the need to keep order inside a pressurized aluminum tube at 30 thousand feet. You'd be surprised at how many passengers are perfectly fine with blocking the emergency egress route of their fellow passengers with luggage and tray tables, or never consider the possibility of their laptop embedding itself into the head of another passenger several rows ahead.
I think he was going for a discussion rather than an argument. Hypothesizing a situation clearly beyond the boundary then working in to find the actual boundary is legitimate. But, that said, I figured that your statement of what the law exists for is actually the case.
He first presented that power as unqualified, by implication absolute. Which is absolute bullshit.
So I presented a very simple ad absurdum demonstrating said power is clearly not absolute.
Recalibrate, be more specific.
He did, and shot himself. Because even he admits that the powers of the flight crew are for a specific purpose, which does not apply here.
You're a glorified bus driver.
Oh reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaalllllly now?
I was pretty sure that statement would draw a reaction. "Glorified bus driver" is inaccurate.
It's a fancy bus and tricky to operate, but no it's perfectly accurate. And I said it for a reason, to puncture the big head God complex that seems to take the form of 'you must obey my every command no matter what' that certain parties seem to suffer from.
They (flight crew) are granted unusual powers, under special and limited circumstances, because they also have critical responsibilities that are literally life and death. (As does a bus driver, BTW.)
They abuse those powers, the backlash will be bad for *everyone*.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
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