Guns And Vultures

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Darrell
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Larry Correia hits another one out of the park:
So last night my feed was filled with posts about ban all guns, damn the NRA, hateful Christians, Republican murderers, evil Tea Party, white men are the real killers.

We’re used to that.

Any time there’s another mass murder, almost always somewhere with strict gun control, usually in a Gun Free Zone, the buzzards swoop in. The events were still in play and the president and the leading democrat candidates had already called for more gun control. People who don’t know much about the topic demand that something be done, even though all the usual proposals would actually make the problem worse, rather than better. But it doesn’t matter. They want what they want, and they’ll latch onto any tragedy as fast as possible.

The majority of people who fall for the siren song of gun control mean well. They really do want to see an end to violent crime. They want to do something. For them, I wrote this back in 2012 and it still applies: http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/ ... ol-repost/ I go into great depth about mass shootings, and the issues with all the various proposed gun laws. It is one of the most widely read articles on the subject ever written.

Most people just want to fix problems. However, the buzzards? They don’t care. There’s a crisis, they want to get something out of it. Stimulus, response. Strike while emotions are high. Some want control. Others just want to posture. Since their proposals would actually make things worse, they’re scum.

Every member of the gun culture watches these things unfold and thinks, hell, here we go again. Want to know something sad? I promise at most of the gun stores around America the news was on, and everybody in there was listening, thinking some variation of please don’t be somebody the news can somehow make out to be like me… Even though the vast majority of the time the shooter isn’t one of us, has nothing to do with us, and in fact, people like us are the last line of defense against them, it doesn’t matter. We know we’re going to get blamed.

Then they’ll attack us, hound us, insult us, legislate against us, and if they can, disarm us in more ways and places… So we can be even more incapable of defending ourselves the next time somebody who isn’t us does something evil. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Then they revealed who the shooters were.

Immediately the same exact people who’d just been screeching about evil Tea Party, racist, hate monger, right wing, ciswhitehetero male phantoms, began urging calm, saying don’t jump to conclusions. It isn’t fair to tar the big group because of the actions of a few. Watch out for that hateful rhetoric, because you might inflame people.

Sure, they had no problem making sweeping generalizations and “inflaming” half the country a few minutes ago… But that’s okay. Because when the left talks about how violent and blood thirsty the right is, they’re just virtue signaling for their tribe. If my people were a fraction as evil and hateful as they portray us, they’d never say a word. They do it because they know it is safe to do so. Christians aren’t going to saw their heads off. The Tea Party isn’t going to set off a car bomb in front of their house. Ever notice how to the media talking about radical militant Islam is islamophobia, but there’s no equivalent media buzz word for being irrationally terrified of half of America?
You can read the rest here:

http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/12/ ... -vultures/

One of my sisters thought San Bernardino was the work of right wing militia types until the story developed. :roll:
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Darrell wrote:One of my sisters thought San Bernardino was the work of right wing militia types until the story developed. :roll:
No excuse. Distance yourself. Friends are Nature's way of making up for your family.


Regarding the OP, he should have noted for the record that statistically, white European males have been the most pacific people in history, particularly in this country.
Our crime rate is the equivalent of Luxembourg's, when you look at the stats.

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Now, I think WWI, WWII, and the body counts of Colonialism, Communism, Catholicism, and Fascisim/Socialism, should pretty much eliminate the idea that Europeans are pacifist.

They may well be the most blood-thirsty populace in history, historically.

And, given Europe's obscene crime rate, they still have serious issues with violence

There are plenty of Americans who are peaceable, but I think that breaks down more along social lines than racial. (Plenty of folks in TX with "z"s in their last name who are perfectly integrated with society, and have been since before the TX revolution, etc. And plenty of meth-head trash in the South which aren't too be trusted.)
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Aesop wrote:Regarding the OP, he should have noted for the record that statistically, white European males have been the most pacific people in history, particularly in this country. Our crime rate is the equivalent of Luxembourg's, when you look at the stats.
Would you care to show your work? While I won't in any was dispute that the gun grabbers are wrong, I haven't heard that claim before.
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BDK wrote:Now, I think WWI, WWII, and the body counts of Colonialism, Communism, Catholicism, and Fascisim/Socialism, should pretty much eliminate the idea that Europeans are pacifist.
From about 450 A.D. to about the mid 20th century or so, you can use, "the period when we make new weapons and breed new soldiers," as the definition of peace, in Europe.
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Jered wrote:
BDK wrote:Now, I think WWI, WWII, and the body counts of Colonialism, Communism, Catholicism, and Fascisim/Socialism, should pretty much eliminate the idea that Europeans are pacifist.
From about 450 A.D. to about the mid 20th century or so, you can use, "the period when we make new weapons and breed new soldiers," as the definition of peace, in Europe.
Lets be careful at drawing the line at the mid 20th century. Europe has been at peace for long periods of time before, only to descend once more into a war, and during for much of the period in question there was an ongoing cold war, which is not exactly peace.
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I think there are two different things in play here. One is peace/war in a nation state (or other government arrangement). By that standards, Europeans are about as bloodthirsty as anyone else and on average better at it than just about everyone else since about 1400 or so (arguably before that).

There is also a question of individual law abidance vs criminality. By that standard Europeans as a group score pretty high, but with a lot of deviation from sub group to sub group.

Scandinavians - very high in terms of law abidance.
Germanic - similar but not quite as uniform
Latin (Spanish, Italian, etc.) - lower but higher than a lot of places (very low in some areas)
Celtics - mixed depending where/when
England is a bit of a mix because it is really about three or four societies overlaid on each other.
Slavs - generally lower but with a wide standard deviation.
Latin Americans - generally pretty low
Africans - lot of variation because lots of different societies ranges from very high to very low
Chinese - all or nothing
Japanese - comparable to Scandinavians

These are obviously generalities, but I think it tracks pretty fairly.
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So, Vonz, what do you attribute those trends to? Race? Culture? Location? The form of government? Something else?

I'd speculate some of each, the order of importance from most to least probably being: Culture, form of government, location, race. I haven't put much deep thought into that, though.
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JKosprey wrote:
Aesop wrote:Regarding the OP, he should have noted for the record that statistically, white European males have been the most pacific people in history, particularly in this country. Our crime rate is the equivalent of Luxembourg's, when you look at the stats.
Would you care to show your work? While I won't in any was dispute that the gun grabbers are wrong, I haven't heard that claim before.
The problem is that the FBI uses "white" the same way the US Census does:

http://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html

"White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa."

So that not only includes all of what is mentioned but also includes a lot of the various Hispanic populations of the Caribbean and South America...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... hites.html
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Weetabix wrote:So, Vonz, what do you attribute those trends to? Race? Culture? Location? The form of government? Something else?

I'd speculate some of each, the order of importance from most to least probably being: Culture, form of government, location, race. I haven't put much deep thought into that, though.
I would agree but add religion too.
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