Muslims crying about blow back, Boo Hoo.

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Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:We do need to GI e them incentive to not tolerate the dick heads. I suggest that we start by deporting whole families when one is involved.
To where? Most of them are citizens
The government has revoked citizenship in the past, and for worse reasons, like fighting socialism and/or fascism before it became politically fashionable to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_Acts_of_1930s
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Netpackrat wrote:
Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:We do need to GI e them incentive to not tolerate the dick heads. I suggest that we start by deporting whole families when one is involved.
To where? Most of them are citizens
The government has revoked citizenship in the past, and for worse reasons, like fighting socialism and/or fascism before it became politically fashionable to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_Acts_of_1930s
What of the ones that are 4th or 5th generation
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Yogimus wrote:What of the ones that are 4th or 5th generation
Clue: Those are not the people going all Aloha Snackbar.
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Vonz90 wrote:We do need to GI e them incentive to not tolerate the dick heads. I suggest that we start by deporting whole families when one is involved.
About as reasonable as throwing people in jail if their guns get stolen and used in a crime, but okay.
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There's no need to deport them out of hand.
Convict them of collusion and complicity first (probably no major feat), then revoke their naturalization, then deport them wholesale.

A cursory search will turn up a similar pattern among certain Sicilian individuals from 1900-1950 or so, and no small number were returned to the native soil.

For the ones that were born here, there's an entire wing in Marionville dedicated to actual enemies of the state.
And if we have need of a deeper Chateau D'If, there is always the unfinished nuclear waste pit in NV, the largely deactivated and unoccupied Adak Island, and so on.

If we need to build a bigger, badder SuperMax, that there's one of those shovel-ready jobs we used to hear about, but never saw in real life.
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Aesop wrote:There's no need to deport them out of hand.
Convict them of collusion and complicity first (probably no major feat), then revoke their naturalization, then deport them wholesale.

A cursory search will turn up a similar pattern among certain Sicilian individuals from 1900-1950 or so, and no small number were returned to the native soil.
Kudoes to Aesop.

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Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:We do need to GI e them incentive to not tolerate the dick heads. I suggest that we start by deporting whole families when one is involved.
To where? Most of them are citizens
You do realize that in WW2 we revoked citizenship of thousands of German. Italians, etc (unfortunately many for no particular reason) many of whom were 2nd generation. So there is precedent.
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Vonz90 wrote:You do realize that in WW2 we revoked citizenship of thousands of German. Italians, etc (unfortunately many for no particular reason) many of whom were 2nd generation. So there is precedent.
There's also current law, Immigration and Naturalization Act §349
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1481
(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or
(4)
(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or
(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or
(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or
(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
From what I've read on some other legal sites, the important part is the intention of the act. Which is probably why US citizens could volunteer in Europe in 1939 and not loose their citizenship.

I know some people that have dual citizenship with the US being one, but all of them were naturalized citizens in the US and the other country didn't revoke their citizenship. I dont think it's possible for a US born citizen to do the same thing in another country. But I'm not a lawyer, so I dont know.
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Erik wrote: I dont think it's possible for a US born citizen to do the same thing in another country. But I'm not a lawyer, so I dont know.
Actually, it is. If an American citizen is born in certain other countries(like New Zealand) to 2 American citizens who are residing in that foreign country, then he/she can be dual citizens.
Other countries allow dual citizenship based on immediate family citizenship. IIRC, I think Chris Bryne holds or could hold dual citizenship with Ireland, based on his grandfather.
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Aesop wrote:In fact, you can tell that no one since Truman has been serious about punishing those who fuck with us: we don't firebomb their cities anymore.
(Nota bene the dearth of anyone discussing how offended the Germans were about this in 1945. Evidently FDR and the War Department were all out of fucks to give then too, even for little German boys and girls roasted like smores in their bomb cellars. Boo frickin' hoo.)
This is why it's time to stop playing by 1991 rules, and limiting collateral damage, and return to unrestricted war against nations, a la 1945.
We have been trying, on an international scale, to run a war the same way LBJ did in 1966, and it's working even worse against Islam than it did against the PAVN.
If anyone in the Muslim world objects, explain to them that our reward from their ignorant fucksticks for limiting our attacks has been to get civilians shot up at Christmas parties, and fuck you and the goat you humped on your way to town, these are the new rules.
That is an excellent point. If we keep fighting like we're in Vietnam, we WILL lose. The problem is that a majority of Americans that don't live in NYFC (and even some that do) have forgotten what it's like to have widespread devastation in their own back yard. Until a nuke is set off in a western city, there will never be support for returning to total war. Not in this day and age of participation trophies and American self-loathing.
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