Rotherham

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I am not trying for moral equivalence, because I don't consider that subculture a part of myself, and therefore feel no need to defend it.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/child-porn- ... -a-barrel/

This link is provided as an example of the results one can get when motivated to do so. Our job as citizens is to motivate those that can do these things.
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Yogimus wrote:My point (and this time I actually have one, greg... not drunk yet) is that if you are outraged enough over the story overseas, but feel powerless, use that outrage to help locally. Cut a check to a local shelter, and remember the issues around election time.
As far as it goes, that's a pretty good point and worth bearing in mind.

But as weet points out, a hotspot of human abuse that intense, that was definitely (with no doubt) well known to the authorities for literally *years* (including police witnessing rapes in progress and making no arrests) with nothing done... that's on a different level and indicates a deeper failing.

Though I wonder what the extent of media and DOJ concealment of black on non-black violence is going to eventually be revealed to be.
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Yogimus wrote:My point (and this time I actually have one, greg... not drunk yet) is that if you are outraged enough over the story overseas, but feel powerless, use that outrage to help locally. Cut a check to a local shelter, and remember the issues around election time.
How do you know he doesn't?

When I see something that looks like man on woman violence, I ask if either of them needs help. Up to now, they've stopped what they were doing, and I haven't had to shoot anyone.

Yesterday, there's a guy unconscious on the sidewalk, who had pissed himself. I called the ambulance so I wouldn't read in the paper that he'd died after I walked by like everyone else was doing. He cussed me drunkenly and threatened me when he woke up. Good thing he couldn't stand. ;)

MY point is, just because someone is outraged about something he can't reach doesn't mean he doesn't do anything where he is. Maybe you shouldn't start off by assuming that's the case.

ETA: cross posted, so I haven't read your link.
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I mean no personal accusation. I just don't much like impotent outrage to look like I care #CONY! crap, and get a bit uppety.
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Yogimus wrote:I mean no personal accusation. I just don't much like impotent outrage to look like I care #CONY! crap, and get a bit uppety.
Oh goodness no, no #bringbackourgirls here.
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Or get angry about kids being kidnapped and sold by Mexican cartels when they crossed the border.

I'm all for the death penalty for human traffickers.
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The frightening part in this isn't that there was human trafficking going on. We know that it happens, and it happens everywhere. The frightening part is not that social workers knew about it, and did nothing, if it were due to corruption, that would be a problem with those particular people, but also happens everywhere. No the truly frightening part is that they were paralyzed by the fear of being accused of racism. Western "civilization"[1] has become so insanely pussified that letting more than a thousand children be abused sexually is preferable in many organizations than deal with racism charges.

Now we can look at how screwed up England is. It's more or less an amateur sport around here, but we're often just a few years behind her. We already have a whole lot of people who hate what Obama's doing to the country, but are totally afraid to speak out about it for fear of being called racist. This is just the next step.

Then, of course, you can even see the pussification continues by identifying them as "asian", though technically correct I suppose, it is deliberately misleading, as they were all British born Pakistani.

This is the true outrage. Yogi's right. These things happen everywhere, and it's easier to be outraged when it's happening a long ways away, but the true outrage is that our society has become so fearful of being perceived as racist that we're unwilling to put a stop to truly vile behavior just because the pile of excrement in human form appears to belong to a "special" class.

[1] I have no idea what else to call it, but "civilization" is clearly the wrong word.
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I find accusations of racism non-threatening, because I am not racist.
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I expect some percentage of Muslims worldwide, between 50 and 99.9% (which estimate may run low), to be child-raping 6th Century-mentality frothing fucktards, based purely on the evidence of my lying eyes for forty-plus years, and thus am seldom disappointed by their behavior, as even in this case.

The problem comes in when they've co-opted the response from theoretically educated officers of the court, like social workers, prosecutors, and ordinary folks down to the beat cop level, to adhere to their sociopathic worldview, rather than both figuratively and literally grabbing them by the scruffs of their filthy necks, beating the hell out of them for sport, and then stuffing them in the sort of British penal shitholes (formerly reserved for IRA members who bombed nurseries and kindergarten playgrounds) until they die, while declaring any three of them at large in any one place a terrorist organization, and sending in the Brute Squad.

Godwin be damned, anyone observing that the fuss over the Holocaust was misplaced, because a Jewish deli owner was also shot in Brooklyn in 1942, therefore both sides cancel each other out, is a reductio ad absurdum that can only be adequately explained by early recourse to adult beverages, and thus probably deserves the same attention as the guy slumped in the corner of the local pub at 1:45 AM.

If anyone has any evidence of a similar level of official disinterest in the US on anything approaching the scale of the documented child-rape rate of Rotherham, a town the size of Buffalo NY, feel free to post it.
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