Looking from the outside (from the opposite side of the country), this sounds about right from my observations.HTRN wrote:Nothing will happen, as Puerto Ricans are a well organized, and politically active group here in Ny, which means any attempt to force either statehood(which has responsibilties and taxes they don't want) or independence(economic suicide) becomes a form of political suicide. Only the Hasidic Jews are better connected/organized ethic group in terms of political influence at the local(which has ripples at the state and federal level) level.
What to do with Puerto Rico?
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Give Puerto Rico back to Spain as a consolation prize for losing Catalonia.
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
It's a Territory for pete's sake. Can't we just dissolve the current government, install a new governor and send a marshall? Wild West baby!
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
The best thing to do would be to spin them off - that probably will not happen.
The second best thing to do is to give the Hong Kong treatment (tremendously low taxes and regulation) to spur rapid growth. That is actually probably possible post hurricane if it is pushed correctly.
The second best thing to do is to give the Hong Kong treatment (tremendously low taxes and regulation) to spur rapid growth. That is actually probably possible post hurricane if it is pushed correctly.
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Consider that Puerto Rico is apparently the research center of the U.S. pharmaceutical industry, we have to ponder whether we are better off with or without them.
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A choice, not an echo. - Goldwater campaign, 1964
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
That actually explains a lot about the personalities of some Puerto Ricans I have encountered online.Rich wrote:Consider that Puerto Rico is apparently the research center of the U.S. pharmaceutical industry, we have to ponder whether we are better off with or without them.
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Option A, repatriate all Purto Roxana and cut them loose. They are another failed Caribbean culture and we don't need them
Option B) Make them into a Singapore, by installing a very pro-development and law and order governor. They are a territory, things can be shoved down their throats.
Option B) Make them into a Singapore, by installing a very pro-development and law and order governor. They are a territory, things can be shoved down their throats.
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Only difference from Vonz is Singapore vs. Hong Kong.BDK wrote:Option A, repatriate all Purto Roxana and cut them loose. They are another failed Caribbean culture and we don't need them
Option B) Make them into a Singapore, by installing a very pro-development and law and order governor. They are a territory, things can be shoved down their throats.
However the problem with option both Option 2 is Singapore and Hong Kong are full of Chinese. I don't see many Chinese in Puerto Rico (oops! did I say something racist?).
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Panama doesn't have any Chinese either, but they have boomed since they liberalized their economy. Same could be said for Chile, or anywhere else where it is tried.D5CAV wrote:Only difference from Vonz is Singapore vs. Hong Kong.BDK wrote:Option A, repatriate all Purto Roxana and cut them loose. They are another failed Caribbean culture and we don't need them
Option B) Make them into a Singapore, by installing a very pro-development and law and order governor. They are a territory, things can be shoved down their throats.
However the problem with option both Option 2 is Singapore and Hong Kong are full of Chinese. I don't see many Chinese in Puerto Rico (oops! did I say something racist?).
It doesn't require Chinese or Europeans or magic gnomes, if you allow people economic freedom and a reasonable degree of rule of law - They figure out a way to prosper.
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Re: What to do with Puerto Rico?
Singapore boomed because the world came to it. Same reason why China - essentially stagnant for millennia has boomed.
Change Puerto Rico's Communist crap, and the world/the US goes to it, and forces growth.
They will still have the same failed, useless culture, but it will be marginalized and displaced.
Change Puerto Rico's Communist crap, and the world/the US goes to it, and forces growth.
They will still have the same failed, useless culture, but it will be marginalized and displaced.