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NOrks go hydrogen

Postby Precision » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:14 am

Does the Norks "alleged" successful detonation of an H bomb change things?

If it does, does it mean we amp up the political pressure on China

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Does it mean we send in assassination teams to take out tech player

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Does it mean we insure Kim jong fatboy has a major accident while shaving with a Harm missile?

or

Does it mean nothing at all?
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby randy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:28 am

It means they could cause more damage if they were stupid enough to actually launch at a US target (and hit it), but the quantitative difference between that and a standard fission weapon doesn't really change the equation. A WMD attack is a WMD attack, and US doctrine hasn't changed on our response for over 50 years.
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby randy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:30 am

And not to be pedantic or anything ;) but unless dickwad is stupid enough to be standing under a RADAR dish, it wouldn't be a HARM (High speed Anti-Radiation Missile) :ugeek:
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby HTRN » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:57 am

Precision wrote:Does the Norks "alleged" successful detonation of an H bomb change things?

Building a physics package is not as difficult as you would think, its delivery and fissionable refinement thats the real challenge.
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby Steamforger » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:03 am

I could use a deployment and the OT....

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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby MarkD » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:47 pm

I doubt anything he sends up in the general direction of our interests will reach its destination, and I suspect things may go badly for him afterward.

Yet another reason why elections have consequences, I can't imagine Shrillary taking a hard line on NK, it's not like they were planning on testifying against her you know.

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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby rightisright » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:02 pm

What is the one thing all despots want? To remain in power.

He knows if he throws a nuke at Japan or Guam, he won't be in power for much longer.

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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby First Shirt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:30 pm

rightisright wrote:What is the one thing all despots want? To remain in power.
He knows if he throws a nuke at Japan or Guam, he won't be in power for much longer.


He should know that. And his senior officers should know that. Whether he, and they, do, is a whole 'nother ballgame. Some people won't acknowledge reality, even when it's biting them on the ass.
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby MarkD » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 pm

First Shirt wrote:
rightisright wrote:What is the one thing all despots want? To remain in power.
He knows if he throws a nuke at Japan or Guam, he won't be in power for much longer.


He should know that. And his senior officers should know that. Whether he, and they, do, is a whole 'nother ballgame. Some people won't acknowledge reality, even when it's biting them on the ass.


Yup, he's a third generation insane despot. He may even believe his own propaganda enough that he thinks he'll WIN if he starts something.

OTOH, if he lobs something in the direction of Guam, let alone the West Coast, that would give us all the excuse we need to make sure there won't be a fourth generation insane despot. With or without collateral damage, sucks if you happen to live in the NK Capital (too lazy to look up the spelling).

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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby MiddleAgedKen » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:15 am

MarkD wrote:Yup, he's a third generation insane despot.


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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby Cybrludite » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:46 am

I've read that the yield was around 140kt. As I understand it, anything under half a megaton is more likely to be plain old nuclear fisson, not thermonuclear fusion. I'm guessing tritium boosting, rather than true fusion, or a "fizzled" (relatively speaking, no pun intended) fusion test.
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Re: NOrks go hydrogen

Postby Termite » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:15 pm

So Lil' Kim has a few fission nukes, and may have a low yield fission-fusion device.

Yay for him.

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