Don't Blame Gun Stores for Crime

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Don't Blame Gun Stores for Crime

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Remember this the next time morons in Chicago blame gun stores: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/09/ch ... -guns.html
The guns – boxes and boxes of them – are part of shipments that are destined for gun companies or gun shops across the country. But as gangsters have caught on to the practice, they are ransacking these trains and stealing weapons that eventually make their way to the city’s blood-soaked streets.
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Well, you know, if you banned all guns this wouldn't happen. /sarcasm/
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I blame car dealerships for hit and run accidents and for drunk driving. Same thing, right?
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I worked in a retail computer store in the 90's. Got a call from a lady one day. She had heard on the radio that there was p*rn on the internet!

And just what was my store going to do to clean it off of there before she let her grandkids dial into AOL?

Sigh. :shock: :roll:
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Weetabix wrote:I blame car dealerships for hit and run accidents and for drunk driving. Same thing, right?
AYUP, and let's blame pens and pencils for misspelled words, along with forks & spoons for people being overweight, right?? :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:
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I didn't think much of that story. The writer tried to make it sound like big deal... until you realise that it was 150 guns stolen over 4 years and at least 100 of them was from one crime. And the story DOES NOT say all of them were stolen in a train yard in Chicago. It says "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said that since 2013, more than 150 firearms have been reported stolen from freight trains."

Then the story goes on and on about crime in Chicago with no actual statement that all these guns were stolen from trains in Chicago. And after you subtract that one 100 pistol heist, which I am guessing did take place in Chicago, though while the story IMPLIES this, it does not actually STATE it. Well, that leaves you with 50 guns over 4 years stolen from trains. Hell, more guns than that get stolen by the TSA and airline baggage handlers.

And why does the story say "more than 150"? How many more, was it 151 or 500? if it is going off a govt. report, why not state the exact number?

And this is supposed to be a scary terrorist threat? A dozen or so stolen guns per year? Why would a terrorist bother when they can just drive a van or pickup truck full of AKs in from Mexico pretty much whenever they want?
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Johnnyreb wrote:Why would a terrorist bother when they can just drive a van or pickup truck full of AKs in from Mexico pretty much whenever they want?
Or just skip the middleman altogether and get them directly from the BATFE... gunwalker, anyone?
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randy wrote:I worked in a retail computer store in the 90's. Got a call from a lady one day. She had heard on the radio that there was p*rn on the internet!

And just what was my store going to do to clean it off of there before she let her grandkids dial into AOL?

Sigh. :shock: :roll:
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Johnnyreb wrote:It says "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said that since 2013, more than 150 firearms have been reported stolen from freight trains."
That's fewer transactions than a lame gun show. ;)
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In all fairness, if its a shipment glib by rail, who would send only 100 guns? That's ~1/3 of a pallet, unless they were very large guns.
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