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Postby John_in_Longview » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:20 pm

FBI director just announced that the FBI recommends no charges be brought against Hilary Clinton for her use of a private email server.
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Postby JustinR » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:22 pm

I can't believe that b**** is gonna get away with it. There has got to be a lot of angry people at Langley and elsewhere right now.
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Postby First Shirt » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:24 pm

So, there is no longer a rule of law in this country?

Because if I had committed 0.01% of the security violations that she's committed, I would still be locked under Leavenworth, getting fresh air on alternate Thursdays.
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Postby Weetabix » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:54 pm

First Shirt wrote:So, there is no longer a rule of law in this country?

People keep saying that. It's been the case for years. The question is, how will we use that fact for good?

ETA: Just for grins, here's a link to the story: FBI: Clinton 'extremely careless' about emails but shouldn't be charged

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Postby g-man » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:59 pm

Declaration, Facts submitted to a candid world, point the fifteenth?
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:


A bit of a stretch, but it's the best analogy to 'one law for me, another for thee' that this embodies. I'd be there with First Shirt, under the damn prison. FML.

Weetabix wrote:The question is, how will we use that fact for good?


Would it be a stretch for a group of States to apply the above? Notwithstanding the previous exercise at that endeavor, it would appear we have a longer and longer list of these original abuses which are being acted out by our own fed.gov, and a repeat attempt could be justified by some as valid.
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Postby Weetabix » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:04 pm

It's also interesting how this comes so closely on the heels of Bill's visit with Loretta Lynch about his grandchildren. :roll:
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Postby MarkD » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:37 pm

I hate to say I told you so, but.....

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Postby Darrell » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:02 pm

Petraeus rode the rocket for a whole lot less. Crony capitalism and gangster government are now the norm. :twisted:
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First Shirt wrote:Because if I had committed 0.01% of the security violations that she's committed, I would still be locked under Leavenworth, getting fresh air on alternate Thursdays.


And I'd be in the cell next to you.

I love how the FBI Director focused on "lack of criminal intent" as if that ever had any relevance to security handling.

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," he said.

Comey said seven email chains were classified at the “Top Secret/Special Access Program level” when they were sent and received on Clinton’s server.


That right there disqualifies her from holding any clearance ever again, and, in a sane society operating on the rule of law, would bar her from any office requiring access to classified information. Unfortunately, we ain't in such a society anymore.

Apparently, Comer was being VERY selective in which statutes he referenced, Per Andrew McCarthy over at NRO:

Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust.
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Postby First Shirt » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:31 pm

I guess the old Wiccans had the right of it after all:

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Postby Kommander » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:06 pm

This means Snowden can come home now right. I men he had no criminal intent either, and at least his actions were arguably in the publics best intrest.

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Postby scipioafricanus » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:55 pm

I hope Comey enjoys his silver.
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scipioafricanus wrote:I hope Comey enjoys his silver.

All 30 pieces of it??
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Postby mekender » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:38 pm

As I posted on FB:

In a much more surprising but less noticed decision, the FBI announced today that Lee Harvey Oswald was "extremely careless" in his discharge of a firearm across a public highway but that it would not warrant charges.
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Postby MarkD » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:40 pm

I have to ask this.

Did anyone expect anything different? I mean six months ago. Did anyone think the FBI under the DOJ under this administration would have indicted her?

I've been carrying extra toilet paper and a change of shorts just in case she WAS indicted, but I thought it was slightly more likely than me having a twelvesome with Marilyn Monroe, Ingrid Bergman, Halle Berry, Bo Derek, Vanna White, Jewel Stait, Audry Hepburn, Scarlett Johansson,, Mariah Carey, Kim Kardashian and my wife. Oh, Marilyn Monroe died nine months before I was born.

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MarkD wrote:I have to ask this.

Did anyone expect anything different? I mean six months ago. Did anyone think the FBI under the DOJ under this administration would have indicted her?

I've been carrying extra toilet paper and a change of shorts just in case she WAS indicted, but I thought it was slightly more likely than me having a twelvesome with Marilyn Monroe, Ingrid Bergman, Halle Berry, Bo Derek, Vanna White, Jewel Stait, Audry Hepburn, Scarlett Johansson,, Mariah Carey, Kim Kardashian and my wife. Oh, Marilyn Monroe died nine months before I was born.


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So this is a country where people are prosecuted for the crime of using a fake ID while investigating an organization that is selling human body parts , but we won't prosecuted someone who had willful disregard for national security secrets?
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Postby BDK » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:35 pm

I doubt it's what happened, but there's a part of me that would love to see, " However we are pressing charges for corruption, espionage, etc related to her activities at the Clinton Foundation while SoS."

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Pity someone didn't shoot down Airforce One while both she and BHO were on board today.............
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I think Comey missed his Paul Revere potential. Sometimes retaining your job pales in comparison to the larger moment at hand. Had Comey said what I think he really felt, he could have shaken the earth with nothing more than the simple spoken truth. Obummer would use Trumps line and say "You're fired." Then Comey could have been able to ply the circuit to become a true patriot and perhaps even rich in the mean time. The sticky bit about staying alive in the process is not lost on me. I thought he was chomping at the bit during his speech and it was obvious to me he wanted to say more than what little he did. I am still disappointed as once again we witness the whole two sets of rules thing. Fuck disappointed, I'm pissed.
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Postby Vonz90 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:53 am

..... so where was his family while he was making this presentation? Just a thought.

Anyway, there were only going to indict her if they needed to get rid of her because she was behind in the polls. With Trump in there, they are not worried about that so no indictment.

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JustinR wrote: There has got to be a lot of angry people at Langley and elsewhere right now.

Perhaps there is a Brutus or three among them...........
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MarkD wrote:I have to ask this.

Did anyone expect anything different? I mean six months ago. Did anyone think the FBI under the DOJ under this administration would have indicted her?.

I called this month's ago. Many here argued with me about it.

It's an age old story, people at that level of power and wealth operate under very different rules.
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In response to Mark, I had hoped that out of all of the institutions in the US Government, the professionalism and integrity of the FBI would prevail over politics, especially with some of the Director's earlier comments, and the fact it seemed like the investigation was taking a long time in order to make an airtight case. Obviously I was wrong. I think I'm going to call them the Federal Bureau of Idiocy from now on. I'd be interested to know how many agents quietly resign in protest over this decision.
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The FBI used t be known as the fumbling, bumbling idiots.
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HTRN wrote:It's an age old story, people at that level of power and wealth operate under very different rules.

True.

History tells us there is only one way this changes.

When it changes, history tells us the bright, shining period of freedom only lasts for 100 or 200 years.

We just celebrated 240 years of the founding of our republic. I doubt we will celebrate the 250th.

As I said before, go read that document published on July 4, 1776.

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Before yesterday morning at 11:00 EDT, I had a lot of respect for James Comey. Now, given the opportunity, I'd spit on his shoes.

I haven't posted on the announcement because I'm still working through my feelings, but it seems that he simply chose the path of least political fallout. In the middle of his presentation, he delivered a scathing rebuttal to each and every one of Clinton's talking points. He laid out in precise language how she violated 18 USC 793, then came to the startling conclusion that no reasonable prosecutor would make the case.

Then, he made the curious statement (let me go to the transcript to be precise)" To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences," I admit I was stunned.

Comey crapped on his oath, his integrity, and his honor.

I began this post in saying that Comey, at 111:00 EDT, had my respect. By noon yesterday, I considered him a Quisling.
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JustinR wrote:In response to Mark, I had hoped that out of all of the institutions in the US Government, the professionalism and integrity of the FBI would prevail over politics, especially with some of the Director's earlier comments, and the fact it seemed like the investigation was taking a long time in order to make an airtight case. Obviously I was wrong. I think I'm going to call them the Federal Bureau of Idiocy from now on. I'd be interested to know how many agents quietly resign in protest over this decision.
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MarkD wrote:Did anyone expect anything different? I mean six months ago. Did anyone think the FBI under the DOJ under this administration would have indicted her?


Expect? No. Hoped for in an excess of optimism......?

What surprised me was the gall in laying out how she and her staff met all elements of gross criminal negligence in the handling of classified information and then saying it doesn't matter because intentions.
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How the hell can't they see having a server is INTENT!
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In other news, I'm told that the FBI has re-opened several other cases.

It seems that Lee Harvey Oswald was "extremely careless" in shooting across a public road.

And, Timothy McVeigh was "extremely careless" in his handling of fertilizer.
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Jericho941 wrote:"She's guilty as hell, but I don't want to die. Or my family."


And it was a distinct possibility. Lynch had already been warned.

Think about it. It really doesn't matter WHAT was said during that 30 min visit on Lynch's plane by Bill Clinton, the underlying message was passed. Talking about grandchildren in vague terms? Is there ANYTHING more "mafisioso" than that?

The Clintons got started on this road during the Reagan administration, when Bill Clinton, then governor of Arkansas, discovered the Iran-Contra operation working out of Mena, AR.

Here are some interesting facts:

Asa Hutchison: Current governor of Arkansas. In 1982 he was appointed as the US Attorney for the western district of Arkansas......right when Barry Seal was running his drug operation out of Mena airport, with CIA help. While Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas.
Afterward, Hutchison was a 2 term US Rep from Arkansas 3rd district, from Jan 1997 - Aug 2001. He was then appointed by George W. Bush to be Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration Aug 2001 - Jan 2003. After 9/11, Congress created the Dept of Homeland Security. George W. Bush then tapped Hutchinson to lead the Border and Transportation Security Directorate, the largest division of the DHS.

George H.W. Bush: Former CIA director. VPOTUS under Reagan, at the same time Barry Seal was running his operation out of Mena. Was knowledgeable, if not directly involved, with Iran-Contra.
POTUS for one term after Reagan left office. Lost his re-election bid to Bill Clinton.

George W. Bush: Two term POTUS of USA, after Clinton. Former governor of Texas. While governor of Texas, he often traveled in a 1982 Beechcraft King Air 200 serial number BB-1014 that reportedly had belonged to Barry Seal. This aircraft is now owned by a Nevada corporation......

Starting to make sense now?
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I work with a guy from Arkansas who is pretty knowledgeable about the Clintons and their hi-jinks. We were joking yesterday that the University of Arkansas should open a School of Aviation and Supply Chain Management and name it after Barry Seal.

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"That investigation was a Republican witch hunt!"

They found one.
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D5CAV wrote:True.

History tells us there is only one way this changes.

When it changes, history tells us the bright, shining period of freedom only lasts for 100 or 200 years.

Bullshit.

This kind of stuff was happening five minutes after the ink was dry on the constitution. It just that now, we actually here about it, because of media saturation.
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Postby Steamforger » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:49 am

I was sincerely hoping someone would ask Comey, under oath, if he was under duress when he made the "No reasonable prosecutor...." comments/decision. I would have loved to see that.

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So, has anyone noticed that the State dept has opened an investigation into Clinton now? What the hell is that about? It seems pretty clear she's not going down for this, so why bother?
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martini wrote:So, has anyone noticed that the State dept has opened an investigation into Clinton now? What the hell is that about? It seems pretty clear she's not going down for this, so why bother?

Political theater to quiet us rowdy "rule of law" types. If they stretch it out long enough, we'll become outraged by the next scandal and forget this one. Played right, they'll always keep us under our boiling point and we'll never do anything about it.
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martini wrote:So, has anyone noticed that the State dept has opened an investigation into Clinton now? What the hell is that about? It seems pretty clear she's not going down for this, so why bother?


So at some favorable point in the news cycle before the election they can issue an exoneration of the former SecState
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Mises.org: Abolish the FBI - RTWT
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Jericho941 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:22 am

This whole thing really rankles with me because I have a friend who spent time in jail because the judge herself said something along the lines of "there was clearly no malicious intent here, no intent to violate the law, but..." and that was that. That opinion only meant he got a comparatively light sentence. You or I step afoul of the law, and The Law Is The Law. But to use Hillary's own words, some people are just too big to jail.

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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby BDK » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:25 am

And, if that were true, its when you end up w. star chambers, and death squads, and the mix of insanity and outright courage that has been Italy's fight against the mafia over the last 30 years, or so...

What we have, is a pervasive rot, and the need to flush the damn toilet that is DC - none of those POS are actually that powerful.

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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby HTRN » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:26 am

martini wrote:So, has anyone noticed that the State dept has opened an investigation into Clinton now? What the hell is that about? It seems pretty clear she's not going down for this, so why bother?

A different political faction wants some leverage, so they start another investigation, which will be quietly dropped after she has a closed door meeting. Considering it's coming from state, my guess is its the old money, new England wing of the dnc, of which, the state department is their playground.
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby martini » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:30 am

HTRN wrote:
martini wrote:So, has anyone noticed that the State dept has opened an investigation into Clinton now? What the hell is that about? It seems pretty clear she's not going down for this, so why bother?

A different political faction wants some leverage, so they start another investigation, which will be quietly dropped after she has a closed door meeting. Considering it's coming from state, my guess is its the old money, new England wing of the dnc, of which, the state department is their playground.


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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby D5CAV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:26 pm

HTRN wrote:
D5CAV wrote:True.

History tells us there is only one way this changes.

When it changes, history tells us the bright, shining period of freedom only lasts for 100 or 200 years.

Bullshit.

This kind of stuff was happening five minutes after the ink was dry on the constitution. It just that now, we actually here about it, because of media saturation.

Try telling that to Richard M. Nixon
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby scipioafricanus » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:34 am

Could the same logic about intent be used by drunk drivers? "I never meant to kill an entire family officer... (hick-up)"
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby D5CAV » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:15 am

scipioafricanus wrote:Could the same logic about intent be used by drunk drivers? "I never meant to kill an entire family officer... (hick-up)"

Yup: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-1 ... ry-defense
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby D5CAV » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:25 am

I know the whole Hillary/FBI think is getting put to the back-burner in the MSM thanks to Dallas, but it is the root problem, specifically the concept of "Rule of Law". They are connected and this is important.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/t ... r_07102016

Let me start with this: Why do drug dealers shoot each other on street corners?

Answer: Joe the drug dealer cannot call the cops and tell them that Jack the drug dealer ripped him off and sold him a bag of oregano instead of weed. Joe also can’t sue Jack. Thus, when the threshold of his tolerance is crossed Joe has only the use of direct force available to him because he has no recourse to the law to settle his dispute with Jack.

The FIRST foundation of civil society is The Rule of Law. Without it there is literally nothing other than the Law of the Jungle, commonly known as “he who has the biggest teeth (or the most guns) and is willing to use them first wins.”


Questioning the "Rule of Law" is what exploded in Dallas. If the cops are doing the killing, who do you call?

The grievance being protested in Dallas is familiar. It was listed by Thomas Jefferson, et.al. in that document whose 240th birthday we celebrated last week: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... cript.html

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
If you are poor and black, does this grievance hit home to you?

The primary role of government is to provide a trusted basis of dispute resolution. If it fails that test, it loses its legitimacy.

Bad things follow.
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Termite » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:54 am

D5CAV wrote:IQuestioning the "Rule of Law" is what exploded in Dallas. If the cops are doing the killing, who do you call?

The Dallas police were not responsible for the shootings of Philando Castile or Alton Sterling.

I have NEVER understood the "Let's riot because it was a bad shoot by the LEO, and the DA & Internal Affairs covered it up" mentality.
That is the creed and behavior of fools, cowards, and mental midgets.

If a LEO does a bad shoot, and IA & the DA white-wash/cover it up, then BLM should go after the individual LEO responsible. Either thru the various courts, or failing that, extra-legally.
But to riot, loot, etc is stupid, counterproductive, and demonstrates that the individuals taking part are nothing more than anarchists/outlaws, and they should be treated as such.

I agree with what Yogi stated: "Coffee and donuts for the demonstrators/protestors...... and bullets for the looters."
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Denis » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:28 pm

This commentary is germane: http://weaponsman.com/?p=33224

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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Termite » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:27 pm

" In even plainer terms, do not expect proud and skilled warriors to stand by and watch the Constitution to which we swore an oath be trampled upon by treacherous thieves like Hillary Clinton."

I have been saying this for some time. At some point, certain members of the US military are going turn on the corrupt politicians, and "go off the reservation"; perhaps members of the special ops community.

An interesting book about this is "Term Limits".
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby D5CAV » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:31 am

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-0 ... nt-hillary

Attorney for Major Jason Brezler demands same treatment as the Hildabeest.

Major Jason Brezler, Deployed 4 times since 2002
Crime: Sent one email via unsecured server to protect his fellow Marines
Punishment: Separated from USMC
Now: Firefighter in NYC
POTUS: No comment

Secretary Hildabeest
Crime: Sent 2079 classified emails via unsecured server for "convenience"
Punishment: none
Now: Democratic nominee for POTUS
POTUS: Endorses Hildabeest
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Termite » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:52 am

FBI confirms special secrecy agreements for agents in Clinton email probe.
I'm not an FBI agent, and I didn't stay at Holiday Inn Express last night.

However, I would hazard that there are several reasons for the extraordinary length the FBI has gone to keeping info about the investigation under wraps.
Among them:
#1. The FBI absolutely does not want to be blamed for cratering a major POTUS candidate's campaign via leaks, even if the info leaked is 100% correct.
#2. The State Dept emails are only a part of the investigation(or investigations), and there is a butt-load of other highly classified stuff on the server which has almost assuredly been hacked/downloaded by the Russians, Chinese, probably the Israelis, and perhaps even "watchdog" organizations such as Anonymous. Information above Top Secret. Specialized and "need to know" information, which has no business being on any computer/computer network connected to the WWW.
#3. There have been foreign newspaper stories of senior Saudi officials claiming that they(the Saudies) have funneled multiple millions to the Clintons, quite possibly thru Canadian sources. If the server had details of the transactions, this would be politically explosive evidence.
#4. Comey is probably compromised, as is Lynch. And possibly dozens(or even hundreds) of other senior government officials including multiple members of Congress. If that is the case, there is no way the DOJ can investigate this at this time. And publically releasing this information would result in massive public backlash against the federal government in general. Think "Unintended Consequences" reactions........

Just my thoughts, while working the night shift....... :geek:
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby g-man » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:05 am

Those forms sound akin to the NDA's I signed every time I got read on. It's actually standard, since you want to keep track of who's had access, since (as was found) there was TS+ level classified info on the server. Reports vary, but it appears there was SAP-level stuff there, which the original classifiers will want to know EXACTLY who saw it. Just sayin'...
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Netpackrat » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:03 pm

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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Greg » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:31 pm

Netpackrat wrote:Shocking....


Notice he gave the immunity deals to Clinton's aides *after* writing up the 'not pressing charges' memo.

It managed to do 2 things:

1) Help make the sham investigation more convincing - ooh he's granting immunity, he's trying to get them to spill something. So to sell the fix, which was definitely in.
2) No, this was to make sure the aides knew they were in the clear so they *wouldn't* spill anything in some attempt to shift blame from themselves. Make sure the whitewash held.

How exactly is *Comey* not in, or under, a prison?
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby scipioafricanus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:58 pm

Greg wrote:
Netpackrat wrote:Shocking....


Notice he gave the immunity deals to Clinton's aides *after* writing up the 'not pressing charges' memo.

It managed to do 2 things:

1) Help make the sham investigation more convincing - ooh he's granting immunity, he's trying to get them to spill something. So to sell the fix, which was definitely in.
2) No, this was to make sure the aides knew they were in the clear so they *wouldn't* spill anything in some attempt to shift blame from themselves. Make sure the whitewash held.

How exactly is *Comey* not in, or under, a prison?

Question: Shouldn't a prosecutor be the only one that can offer immunity?
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby Precision » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:26 pm

Question is ... how long until America returns to its roots of tar and feathering such cretins?
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Re: FBI recommends no charges against Clinton

Postby MiddleAgedKen » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:18 pm

Be a while yet...the fridge is full and the ball game is on.
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