Local Fire Fighter Not Charged In Self Defense Shooting

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Seems like a perfect example of the concept of disparity of force.

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Not to mention, that just because you aren't looking for trouble, doesn't mean that trouble's not looking for you.
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"Cleanup on aisle 5! Cleanup on aisle 5!"

Sounds like he did a community service. The dead guy was apparently so much of a frequent flyer/known problem, that a warning had been issued for officers not to respond to domestics at his residence alone.
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Interesting, because as I recall, you cannot have any alcohol in your system and still CCW in NC.

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They made the right call. As for his having had a couple of beers, it's not like he was carrying on his person while drinking. Sad that in the comments, some bitch is defending the perp.
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Greg wrote:"Cleanup on aisle 5! Cleanup on aisle 5!"

Sounds like he did a community service. The dead guy was apparently so much of a frequent flyer/known problem, that a warning had been issued for officers not to respond to domestics at his residence alone.
They were warned to respond with backup:
“After seeing Pittarelli enraged and dealing with him at these calls for service, the CMPD officers stated they felt Pittarelli was dangerous enough that an alert was placed on the residence and officers district-wide were made aware to not respond to this residence alone,” Hamilton said.
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skb12172 wrote:They made the right call. As for his having had a couple of beers, it's not like he was carrying on his person while drinking. Sad that in the comments, some bitch is defending the perp.
No, I completely agree that they made the right call. Absolutely. But here in the California of the South (TM):
It shall be unlawful for a person, with or without a permit, to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol or at any time while the person has remaining in the person's body any alcohol or in the person's blood a controlled substance previously consumed, but a person does not violate this condition if a controlled substance in the person's blood was lawfully obtained and taken in therapeutically appropriate amounts or if the person is on the person's own property.
And you can't keep a weapon concealed in your vehicle without a CCW permit. It can be in plain view, though I still wouldn't try it. The article states that he took it out of the console.
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JAG2955 wrote:
skb12172 wrote:They made the right call. As for his having had a couple of beers, it's not like he was carrying on his person while drinking. Sad that in the comments, some bitch is defending the perp.
No, I completely agree that they made the right call. Absolutely. But here in the California of the South (TM):
It shall be unlawful for a person, with or without a permit, to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol or at any time while the person has remaining in the person's body any alcohol or in the person's blood a controlled substance previously consumed, but a person does not violate this condition if a controlled substance in the person's blood was lawfully obtained and taken in therapeutically appropriate amounts or if the person is on the person's own property.
And you can't keep a weapon concealed in your vehicle without a CCW permit. It can be in plain view, though I still wouldn't try it. The article states that he took it out of the console.
It is specifically stated in the original article he has a CCW permit.
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Right, but since someone else was driving, he likely had alcohol (ANY AMOUNT) in his system. It's a no-no. I'm not saying that it's not stupid, or unconstitutional, or that I may be guilty of occasionally breaking that law.

I'm just saying that he's lucky that he wasn't charged with it.
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JAG2955 wrote:Right, but since someone else was driving, he likely had alcohol (ANY AMOUNT) in his system. It's a no-no. I'm not saying that it's not stupid, or unconstitutional, or that I may be guilty of occasionally breaking that law.
No need for qualifying every statement. He had 2 beers (it's in the article) which is why he wasn't driving.
I'm just saying that he's lucky that he wasn't charged with it.
So he needs a CCW to have the gun in his glove box. He has that. He can't carry with alcohol in his system, that's fine he wasn't carrying it was in his glove box.

Apparently it is shocking that not every place is NJ. :lol:
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