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[Durham68]

Cruz seems to have some strategeric capability. He's way further into this primary than even his supporters really expected 6 months ago.

This point has been in my mind. I liked him early. Usually whoever I like craps out early in the primaries.

I thought he was a better tactician than he has shown. The VP selection this early makes no sense to me.

[blackeagle603]

When would have made sense then? Doing it the same old way as every past Presidential nominee?

How's that worked lately for Republicans? Seems like this cycle is new rules and new media ruling the cycle. I'm not going to be too sure of anything till the fat lady sings.


What we _do_ have in Cruz_Carly are two top notch articulators of Constitutional First Principles. Is that what we've all been looking for and crying out for thru the decade + on this forum discussing presidential politics?


Can't make some people happy I guess. (we played the flute for you, but you did not dance. We played a dirge for you but you would not mourn).

[Aesop]

When would have made sense then? Doing it the same old way as every past Presidential nominee?

1) Keeping his mouth shut about veeps until he was something more than the second-place candidate hoping for a shot on the second ballot.
2) Bringing in someone who adds sizzle to your campaign, rather than pissing on its sputtering campfire.
3) Going to someone who balances the ticket nationally, and has some bare chance of adding voters in a national campaign (I'm talking in the millions, not the dozens), like Scott Walker, or Mike Pence, or even Rick Santorum, rather than some political lackwit who's never held any political office in her life, nor able to muster more than 0.0000002% of the votes of her own party, and couldn't get a dog to play with her if she tied a pork chop around her neck.

What we _do_ have in Cruz_Carly are two top notch articulators of Constitutional First Principles. Is that what we've all been looking for and crying out for thru the decade + on this forum discussing presidential politics?

Fiorina is so bad at articulating anything, let alone any reason to vote for her except her ovaries that no one even in her own party was listening to her. Ever. Going back years, not just in debate after debate and primary after primary. When you're in second place, trying to gain ground, you don't throw a boat anchor on your back. If Cruz and his campaign couldn't find somebody who added to the campaign, including a woman, from among the ranks of Republicans already out there with an actual track record of not losing every race they've ever entered, then his campaign unquestionably has nothing but shit for brains.
And the fact that Cruz can't see that either ties him to the same lack of any political intelligence or mature judgment whatsoever.
He may as well have pulled a gun out of an envelope and blown his head off on live TV, because politically, he just did the same thing.

This was a desperate clutching at anything, without the slightest saving grace anywhere in the announcement.
The news media covered it, of course - because they pretty universally saw it either in dumbfounded amazement, or as the most astonishing moment of utter electoral insanity in decades.
It was a man on fire trying furiously to beat the flames out with handfuls of dynamite sticks while running towards a dunking pool of gasoline.

Who wouldn't cover that?

And have no fear: this announcement made fucktons of people happy: millions of Trump supporters, and the entire DNC.
Probably not Ted's target audience, but rest assured, they all know the adage: when your opponent makes a colossal error, stay the hell out of his way.

Cruz may make a good AG someday, for someone.
But until the lobotomy scars heal, he'll probably never be president, and if, against all odds, he somehow manages to stumble into the office, his standing in history will give Warren Harding and William Henry Harrison a run for their money.

But what's far worse, is that in blowing his own head off politically, Cruz has killed - probably for decades - any chance this time around of squashing the deathgrip the Republicrat establishment has on Washington. Yesterday's act of electoral seppuku by Cruz left the party with a choice between the insanity of a Trump candidacy - on a par with Germans figuring that after Weimar, maybe those Bavarian socialists deserved a shot - or limping back, like oft-kicked dogs and battered wives, to the exact same Bonehead/McConjob/Quisling Ryan sort of epic douchenozzles that have hamstrung and buttfucked conservatism in the GOP for the last 40 years, if not actually since Coolidge.

Such a limp-wristed spineless betrayal of the very base he was counting on earns nothing from me but an unending stream of effluvium from the depths of my bowels, particularly after a hearty fiesta platter of beans and guacamole.
If I buy a toilet with Cruz's face embossed at the bottom of the bowl, in an entire lifetime I couldn't repay the favor of what he did to conservatism and the nation in the last 24 hours. I hope at least, for his sake, that Carly is good on her knees, because that's all that he's getting out of this pick.

But at least he's nailed the Fred Thompson Presidential Campaigner Award, with gold oak leaves, hands down.

[Vonz90]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... -ted-cruz/

[blackeagle603]

He made this play now because Indiana is 5 days away and is a do or die state.

Trump can be blocked or not ever (likely) blocked, and Cruz dead or still in it all depending on the outcome in IN.

[JustinR]

Going to someone who balances the ticket nationally, and has some bare chance of adding voters in a national campaign (I'm talking in the millions, not the dozens), like Scott Walker, or Mike Pence, or even Rick Santorum,

Walker or Santorum? They are both ok guys, but add zero in terms of being "boring white guys." Cruz already won WI. I haven't even heard of Mike Pence. I don't see that accomplishing anything nationally.

...rather than some political lackwit who's never held any political office in her life,

Feature, not a bug.

...nor able to muster more than 0.0000002% of the votes of her own party, and couldn't get a dog to play with her if she tied a pork chop around her neck.

Ok, then explain to us how she got the GOP nomination to run for the Senate.

Don't misunderstand, we love ya Aesop, but I think you've overreacted a bit here, IMHO. *ducks*

[evan price]

If it comes down to Cruz-Fiorini versus Hillary-Cthulhu I will stay home.

Thanks a lot.

Holding my nose and just voting the Republican ticket got us McCain, Romney, and whatever the hell is going on now. If the Rs want to win they need better candidates, not encouragement that we will just keep holding the line.

[Vonz90]

If it comes down to Cruz-Fiorini versus Hillary-Cthulhu I will stay home.

Thanks a lot.

Holding my nose and just voting the Republican ticket got us McCain, Romney, and whatever the hell is going on now. If the Rs want to win they need better candidates, not encouragement that we will just keep holding the line.

Cruz is the most conservative candidate since Reagan (and possibly more conservative than him) - what the heck do you want?

[Netpackrat]

Thanks a lot.

Holding my nose and just voting the Republican ticket got us McCain, Romney, and whatever the hell is going on now. If the Rs want to win they need better candidates, not encouragement that we will just keep holding the line.

Cruz is the most conservative candidate since Reagan (and possibly more conservative than him) - what the heck do you want?

Pretty much this. While I would dearly love for Zombie Cal Coolidge to be running, Cruz is by far the best candidate for president within my lifetime. To include Reagan, who was lukewarm at best on the Second Amendment.

[Aesop]

Going to someone who balances the ticket nationally, and has some bare chance of adding voters in a national campaign (I'm talking in the millions, not the dozens), like Scott Walker, or Mike Pence, or even Rick Santorum,

Walker or Santorum? They are both ok guys, but add zero in terms of being "boring white guys." Cruz already won WI. I haven't even heard of Mike Pence. I don't see that accomplishing anything nationally.

Mike Pence? Y'know, the currently-serving (R) governor of IN, the make-or-break state for Cruz?
The guy smart enough to state last year he had no interest in participating in this year's presidential clown show?
I'm hoping you've heard of Indiana. Eleven electoral votes, between Illinois and Ohio, sitting amidst about 100 Rust Belt electoral votes up for grabs in this economy...that Indiana.
Boring white guys? Oh, you mean every other person running for president besides Shrillary and Fiorina?
If you can't name a serious addition other than Fiorina, like the Cruz campaign evidently couldn't, either there isn't one, or he's so alienated everyone else inside the party that no one else wants to be on his team.
Either way, it simply telegraphs simultaneously desperation, unelectability, poor judgment, and a total lack of common sense.

...rather than some political lackwit who's never held any political office in her life,

Feature, not a bug.

So the Trumpkins keep telling us.
Like Fiorina did.
Like Ben Carson did.
Like Herman Cain did.
Spot the trend there.

...nor able to muster more than 0.0000002% of the votes of her own party, and couldn't get a dog to play with her if she tied a pork chop around her neck.

Ok, then explain to us how she got the GOP nomination to run for the Senate.

In CA?
Total lack of interest from anyone serious, more ego and money than any brains or political skills (ring any bells for other candidates?), coupled with the abdication of any actual intent to recruit legitimate candidates from the CA GOP jacktards. Going back decades. Previous CA GOP Senatorial nominees include Michael Huffington, just before he dumped his wife Zsa Zsa for some buff male ballerina, and inflicted her on the entire country as punishment.
Who wouldn't want to follow that act?

Fiorina was a complete and utter no-show in her entire CA Senate campaign. I was here. I watched her non-appear for months, and disappear without so much as leaving a ripple in the political pond. (In the mid-terms of 2010, a banner year for the GOP everywhere else, Fiorina spent $17M to get her ass handed to her in a 10-point landslide against Barbara Boxer, unquestionably the stupidest person in the entire Congress in living memory, and the election was called about 4 minutes after the polls called. She couldn't even get 80% of registered Republicans here to even bother to show up for the main event, and in the primaries, she could only muster 40% of her own party's vote.)
Pretty much exactly as she did in this entire presidential primary circus.
In a Sept. 2015 poll of Republican voters (before reality slapped the shit out of her), Fiorina - in her own state - finished sixth, with 5%, behind Trump, Carson, Bush, Cruz, and Rubio.
Californian Republicans, even then, in a state completely overrun with illegal aliens, would rather have elected Marco Amnesty that Carly Fiorina, failed senate campaigner, 9 months ago.
See if you can spot another trend.
She should have had the sense to drop out that day, change her name, and retire to some banana republic with lax banking laws and good room service.
She is and always has been nothing but a political joke and an open sore, both here and nationally.
If she appears on any other ballots in the future, I'll be happy to stay home for her that time, too.
Have I mentioned that there's a primary here in CA this year, and that for the first time in living memory, it's of some importance to the nomination?
So WTF would somebody pick a running mate THAT unpopular here?
Do Cruz and his retard campaign staff really think 50% of American voters won't be able to see past their vaginas in the polling booths both now, and come this November??
If that's the case, why not name Kate Upton or Taylor Swift, both cuter and far more popular with voters than Carly Failerina?

Don't misunderstand, we love ya Aesop, but I think you've overreacted a bit here, IMHO. *ducks*

Cruz made a recockulous choice of an unserious running mate, ergo he's not a serious candidate himself.
Which also bodes poorly for his judgment when selecting a cabinet, and the next associate justice(s) of SCOTUS, among other things.
Once you shoot yourself in the foot, while your foot is in your mouth, and with a shotgun, it's tough to get a do-over.
Cruz went from serious challenger to national laughingstock, overnight.

All that's left for him now is to go tank-riding in a helmet three sizes too big, and his work is done. Literally.
(Personally, I think he's simply decided "Fuck it. I have four more years in the Senate to be the conservative equivalent to McCain as a Flaming Pain In The Ass, and I've already got a lifetime Senate pension. I don't need this grief any longer, so I may as well put on clown shoes and do pratfalls for laughs." But that's just my opinion. If he meant this - naming someone who's lost every campaign she's ever run - as a serious boost to his campaign, he's actually lost his fucking mind.)

Electing an actual conservative is a priority.
Cruz is an actual conservative, without a doubt, and likely the most conservative candidate this primary season.
(Although this year, that's a pretty low bar.)
But I also insist they have something other than shit for brains, politically.
Despite his imperfections, Reagan at least learned how to get elected several times.
Setting the bar at "conservative, bat shit crazy, but not quite as horrible as Trump" is one at which we ought not settle.

Cruz could've been somebody. He could've been a contender! Instead of a bum, which is what he is now. Let's face it.