Things turning around in Europe?

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Things turning around in Europe?

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I have to admit, I don't know nearly as much as I should about European politics, so I'm hoping to get the impressions on this article about a potential political shift over there.
Commentators are calling elections for seats in the European Parliament and local council seats in Britain a “political earthquake” and “revolution” as strongly conservative candidates made significant gains. In Britain, the UK Independent Party (UKIP) outperformed the established Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties. Labour hired one of President Obama’s top political strategists, David Axelrod, as a consultant. It didn’t help.

The significance of the election was summarized by the BBC, which noted that it was “the first time a party other than the Conservatives or Labour has won a national election for 100 years.” UKIP won with 27.5 percent of the vote, electing 24 of its members to the European Parliament.
I'm hoping this is at least a small shift in the right direction, but I also know that the US media has an even worse grasp of European politics than I do and what their parties stand for.
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"Turning around" is a pipedream. Over there, over here, there is no turning around. Just a minor course correction.
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All they are doing is taking the jackboot off the left foot and putting it on the right, except in Germany where they have a spotless pair at all times.
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CByrneIV wrote:What's going to turn it around is the next time there is a continent wide rise of fascist racism, and a class/race war... and the aftermath thereof.

Anything in between is just deck chairs on the titanic.
Tom Kratman did an interesting thought piece in the afterword of his novel Caliphate on what might happen. He postulates that the most likely scenario is "White Euros go Fascist, but it will be too little, too late".
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never underestimate the brutal efficiency of the white man.
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Yogimus wrote:never underestimate the brutal efficiency of the white man.
The problem is one of numbers..

Either way, it's gonna be cities burning for sure. My guess? One of the smaller cities in France will be first.
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Yogimus wrote:never underestimate the brutal efficiency of the white man.
Takes a lot of supporting background cultural factors to be brutally efficient, instead of the indiscriminate bloodthirsty incompetence that seems to be the general human default level.

Not all white men are up to the standards of brutal efficiency, and probably fewer now than there used to be.
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The moose-limbs are not patient or disciplined enough to win in the long run. They are already showing their hand now and it is way too soon as they don't really have the overall numbers there (especially considering that not all of them are on board the whole let's turn the West into the same hell hole we got out of project.)

One big issue for them is that they tend to live together, so they think there are more of their group than there actually are. The same thing is true of urban blacks/Hispanics here.

The end game will be ugly though.
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Some of the anti-EU parties now getting popular support are borderline fascist, most aren't. The Golden Dawn in Greece are probably the worst example although there is a German party who do everything but goose step and sing the Horst Wessel Lied at torchlight rallies.

The liberal media ( which means almost every newspaper and TV station ) and the mainstream political establishment ( left or right, there is little to choose between them ) are running out of ways to defend the EU and have now resorted to smear tactics and screaming 'racist' !!!! instead of debating.
The UK anti-EU party, UKIP suffered a campaign against them in the media the likes of which is unprecedented. There were even blatant attempts to liken UKIP to the Golden Dawn, although UKIP's policies are small-government conservatism rather than neo-fascism.
It basically backfired because the political and media elite have become so convinced by their own righteousness and so out of touch with public opinion that they think voters will actually listen to them. In reality huge numbers of people hold them in nothing but contempt and resent being lectured.
UKIP's position on firearms and self defence ( repeal of the handgun ban, introducing a castle doctrine ) caused howls of anguish in the media, but more and more British people are coming around to the view that bans haven't made anything better and that violent criminals should not be protected under the law.
It'll be interesting to see how UKIP fare in next years general ( UK government ) elections.

As for the future...I think it'll be interesting, as in the Chinese curse.
Huge waves of Islamic immigration are bringing a new population who actively hate us and see the West as a soft touch to be exploited at best, conquered at worst.
The Mediterranean countries are full of people who want socialised cradle to grave welfare but don't wish to pay for it themselves, France is heading towards bankruptcy and the economy of the Eurozone is only hanging together because the UK and Germany are propping it up for now.
Politicians are almost universally despised both for good reasons ( because they ARE despicable ) and for bad reasons ( they aren't handing out enough free stuff )
The EU is trying to extend it's control over more and more aspects of peoples lives, wasting astronomical amounts of taxpayers money and remains institutionally corrupt.

As Clint Eastwood says, it's gonna get fucking ugly...
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HTRN wrote:
Yogimus wrote:never underestimate the brutal efficiency of the white man.
The problem is one of numbers..

Either way, it's gonna be cities burning for sure. My guess? One of the smaller cities in France will be first.
Numbers have never been the problem. We panic easily, and when we lash out, it is in the most brutal way possible.
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