In The USA, 7 Shotgun Shells Equals 15 Years In The Pen

[mekender]

I think the gist of the argument here is that the punishment is disproportionate Yogi.

3 counts of felony burglary and at least some of those, he was being a good father by bring his teenager along...

They should have strung him up by his neck from the nearest light post and made his kid watch so as to have a long reminder as to why stealing was wrong.

After 22 felony charges in his life, 11 of them violent, my thinking is that he was obviously not capable of living in a peaceable society.

[Netpackrat]

And then in a few years, Tennessee will scream bloody murder and "states rights" when they find that the strings such "help" comes attached to are steel cables strong enough to support the Golden Gate bridge.

If the federal court has time to prosecute the felons that Tennessee can't be bothered with, it's at least too big by exactly that amount.

I don't disagree with that at all; I was just saying that I can see why the state chose to drop the charges given he was going to federal prison anyway. Personally I would have preferred to see him tried for the burglary, etc, instead of for violating unconstitutional gun laws.

[skb12172]

Mek, he commited no violence. Those offences were categorized as "violent" by da gubment, but in actuality, no violent act was committed. This ranks up there with the way they have been known to define Domestic Terrorist. Don't be their willing stooge by buying in to their game.

[Windy Wilson]

"Rough Justice", where you convict someone for a crime they did not commit, or one that is wobbly constitutionally, but it gets them into prison when you know they did other crimes you can't prove is not justice under the law, anymore than "social justice" or "racial justice" or any other compound justice phrase beloved by leftists.

[Greg]

Stop making criminals posterboys for our side please.

Just can't win with you. Usually you're the first one to throw Sir Thomas More at us.

"So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!" etc.

There is no win. It is not a contest. A criminal broke the law. Multiple laws. Laws that were designed to protect other people, like... don't hurt or steal from others law. He did so willingly. The fact that he had shotgun shells and is in trouble for that on top of all the other things he did doesn't mean the pro gun side should rise up as a whole for his defense.

Your whole premise is wrong. Nobody was ever making him a mascot or poster boy for anything.

But some of us try to only make decisions based on the information we have, and try to have those decisions be right and correct. And based on the initial (misleading) information, it seemed this fellow was truly an idiot but also potentially the victim of a stat-padding prosecutor, and that his punishment wasn't looking to fit his possible-but-not-confirmed crimes. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Someone offers a followup story with additional information, a rational and honest individual needs to reevaluate his position. Looks like he truly is much worse than just a hopeless idiot.

But you, no matter what position people take, based on what information they have... you need to be both contradictory, and morally superior.

[mekender]

Mek, he commited no violence. Those offences were categorized as "violent" by da gubment, but in actuality, no violent act was committed. This ranks up there with the way they have been known to define Domestic Terrorist. Don't be their willing stooge by buying in to their game.

Sorry, someone that has not learned after 22 felonies is still someone that has proven they are not capable of living in a peaceable society.

In a just society, he would have been strung up long ago...

And NORMALLY, a burglary is only considered a violent crime if it is done to an occupied structure. Which means that the occupant would be 100% justified in shooting the person breaking in.

[blackeagle603]

meh/ we're all going to be felons in CA soon as the ammo registration bill moving through Sacramento gets passed and signed.

[Highspeed]

It seems he's an asshole then, going by the comments.
But he should have been sentenced for being an asshole, not gotten 15 years for owning a few shotgun shells.

[martini]

"Rough Justice", where you convict someone for a crime they did not commit, or one that is wobbly constitutionally, but it gets them into prison when you know they did other crimes you can't prove is not justice under the law, anymore than "social justice" or "racial justice" or any other compound justice phrase beloved by leftists.

Exactly!
If you have the guy on an actual crime, burglary in this case, charge him and convict him. This isn't justice by any measure.

[308Mike]

meh/ we're all going to be felons in CA soon as the ammo registration bill moving through Sacramento gets passed and signed.

You're absolutely correct!! Most people I've talked to have said they simply WILL NOT COMPLY - with ANY new laws/regulations the state may institute regarding RKBA. I get the impression they plan on either overwhelming the justice system or creating such a HUGE backlash from those who DON'T LIVE IN THE CITIES, that the local resources will be simply overwhelmed with EVERYONE demanding a jury trial, along with appeals - and all this AFTER the latest US Supreme Court rulings.

With the latest bills winding their way through the CA DHIMMICRAPTIC legislature, if they get passed, don't be surprised if you not only see a flurry of lawsuits and/or people fleeing the state for more freedom-minded locations (EXCEPT Colorado - until they get their shiite straightened out with the recalls).

Businesses are already leaving the state in droves, now watch many of the workers leave - and the tax base CONTINUE to shrink and the dickheads in Sacramento won't be able to figure out what's going on, and/or what happened to make all this occur. The Dhimmicraps will NEVER get a clue 'cause all they can do is project and they will NEVER see the cause for all the people and money fleeing the state.

They SIMPLY WILL NOT GET IT.

And you can watch for the Commifornia bankruptcy in less than a decade. And they will NEVER understand WHY it happened!!