How to reduce Alaska freight costs?

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How to reduce Alaska freight costs?

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One complaint I've heard often about Alaska is how expensive it is to ship to and from the State. So is the solution political or technical?
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Annex Canada?
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Eliminating the Jones Act would help a lot.
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JAG2955 wrote:Annex Canada?
Could we limit it to just the western provinces please? I really don't think anyone wants to include Quebec.
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Netpackrat wrote:Eliminating the Jones Act would help a lot.
To save others from expending their Google-Fu, and assuming Wikipedia is correct (really, stop laughing, just for the sake of argument):

The Merchant Marine Act of 1920 (P.L. 66-261), also known as the Jones Act
...requires that all goods transported by water between U.S. ports be carried on U.S.-flag ships, constructed in the United States, owned by U.S. citizens, and crewed by U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents.
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Too bad we can't talk UPS into converting a retired aircraft carrier into a really BIG Brown Truck.... 8-)
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Old Grafton wrote:Too bad we can't talk UPS into converting a retired aircraft carrier into a really BIG Brown Truck.... 8-)
I think there's lot of people that would be willing to haul the freight, but all those Jones Act requirements do is drive up costs. Up and up and up.
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randy wrote: I really don't think anyone wants to include Quebec.
Ship them down to south Louisiana. There is historical precedent. They would adapt or die, and they already speak French.
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Would it be cheaper to ship via an intermediate foreign port? Outbound to Asia from the west coast is ridiculously cheap with all those empty boxes. Then back from Asia to Anchorage? On foreign flagged vessels for both legs.

Slower of course but would that get around the Jones act?
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Leave us the hell alone would work wonders , getting all the Feds out of our business and reducing State.gov to about 10 percent of what they are now , allow mining , drilling, pipelines etc would give us ehe economic lever to improve our own situation.
The folks in Yukon and northern BC want to get rid of Ottawa bad so they might want to join us if we werent such busy body , tax happy socilists.
The Jones act typifies the busy body bs .
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