HTRN wrote:So, wranglestar has a video out on gunsafes, and I had to shut it off halfway through, to keep from stroking out..
Looked that vid up...
So he's gone from a safe a guy can cut thru the sides with and angle grinder in 15 minutes, to one that a guy with a double bitted axe or digging bar can go thru the front in 1-2 minutes?
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HTRN wrote:So, wranglestar has a video out on gunsafes, and I had to shut it off halfway through, to keep from stroking out..
Looked that vid up...
So he's gone from a safe a guy can cut thru the sides with and angle grinder in 15 minutes, to one that a guy with a double bitted axe or digging bar can go thru the front in 1-2 minutes?
I guess positioning a safe so there is no access to the back or sides was too complicated for him.
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HTRN wrote:So, wranglestar has a video out on gunsafes, and I had to shut it off halfway through, to keep from stroking out..
Looked that vid up...
So he's gone from a safe a guy can cut thru the sides with and angle grinder in 15 minutes, to one that a guy with a double bitted axe or digging bar can go thru the front in 1-2 minutes?
There were so many bad ideas in that vid. One, burglers make a beeline straight for the master bedroom, so putting it in the master closet is the worst idea imaginable.Two, putting it out in the open, where it can be seen, and therefore attacked (which is why putting a safe in the garage is a remarkably bad idea). Two, complaining that a thief will be able to get in with a battery operated grinder in less than an hour is retarded. I can get into anything short of a full blown bank vault in less than an hour with a 110v plasma cutter. But heres the thing, "professional" thieves like in the movie are almost non existent in real life, and most of the time, theyre not robbing houses because the paoff is generally too small. What you do hve to worry about is the typical smash and grab artist whos robbing you to get his next fix. Generally they want to be in and out as fast as possible, and a way to ensure that is an alarm system, as it forces the to a very short timetable.
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JAG2955 wrote:Mine's in the garage because it weighs 1,650lbs empty.
The problem with having them in the garage, is that every time you open the garage door, its visible to everybody - most burglaries are done by somebody who lives in the area.
And sixteen hundred pounds aint that bad, my mill weighs 1200 hundred and i got it down a flight of internal stairs. If you have outside basement access, it shoulndt be that hard to get it down there. Something else he brought up was chinese drywall. Once again, thats a problem with rscs, real safes usually have a decent fire rating, usually by lining with high temperature insulation. Yes your guns are gonna be damaged, but a decent fire rated safe might mean the difference between salvage and scrap.
HTRN, I would tell you that you are an evil fucker, but you probably get that a lot ~ Netpackrat
Describing what HTRN does as "antics" is like describing the wreck of the Titanic as "a minor boating incident" ~ First Shirt
JAG2955 wrote:Mine's in the garage because it weighs 1,650lbs empty.
The problem with having them in the garage, is that every time you open the garage door, its visible to everybody - most burglaries are done by somebody who lives in the area.
And sixteen hundred pounds aint that bad, my mill weighs 1200 hundred and i got it down a flight of internal stairs. If you have outside basement access, it shoulndt be that hard to get it down there. Something else he brought up was chinese drywall. Once again, thats a problem with rscs, real safes usually have a decent fire rating, usually by lining with high temperature insulation. Yes your guns are gonna be damaged, but a decent fire rated safe might mean the difference between salvage and scrap.
No basement, and all tile floors in the Texas house. Luckily, it's a side-opening garage, and the safe is difficult to see from the street. Mine's lined with ceramic blanket.
Netpackrat wrote:I particularly liked how his plan to access his bedside pistol safe is to open up the main safe, and get the key to the bedside safe.
Wow, that rates one of those 'Jackie Chan going WTF?' memes.
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