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Postby blackeagle603 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:35 pm

Speechless...
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LBJ daisy ad comes to mind
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Postby Netpackrat » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:18 am

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Postby Vonz90 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:52 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/11/0 ... tests.html

Well good, I am a football fan, but the NFL can rot in hell for all care at this point. Never watching/going to a game again.

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Postby Termite » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:31 pm

Sometimes I am a dumbass. :roll:

Last Tuesday there was a storage unit that had not been paid for in months, and the manager was putting the contents up on auction. However, I had been told that there was "some sort of old airplane fuselage and engine" in the unit.

I completely forgot about it. Turns out the fuselage was trash(Bellanca Cruisemaster), but there was an IO-470 and constant speed prop. And a decent stainless side-by-side fridge.

The unit went for $150......... :(
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Postby blackeagle603 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:07 pm

The unit went for $150........


I feel faint...
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Postby Steamforger » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:40 pm

blackeagle603 wrote:
The unit went for $150........


I feel faint...


You feel faint? I just recommended spending another half million dollars and adding about 4 months of time to a project that was wrapping up in Dec. I can't wait for our weekly meeting on Tuesday....

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Postby Greg » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:44 am

Got caught outside when it started to hail today. Wasn't even very large hail.

It hurt, especially the ones that got me in the head. Left small welts all over my back. Yay.
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Postby Netpackrat » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:21 am

I have a new winter driving chant.

"It's not the Jeep."
"It's not the Jeep."
"It's not the Jeep."

And honestly, the new truck is OK so far... But it's not the Jeep.
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Postby randy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:26 am

Netpackrat wrote:I have a new winter driving chant.

"It's not the Jeep."
"It's not the Jeep."
"It's not the Jeep."


In my mind I hear that in this voice
...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".

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Postby Weetabix » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:10 am

Turns out, if you're done with slow fire, go to rapid fire, then put the rifle down, it WILL melt the lining of the rifle case. Who knew?
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Postby HTRN » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:29 pm

I really hate Uber drivers. It seems like to most of them, driving is something of a new concept.
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Postby Vonz90 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:51 pm

So the house is sold and we close in about 4 week. Have not found a place yet but looked at one today which is pretty good, nice house and enough land to bow hunt. Much closer for the daughter's school and wife's job and about the same for mine.

I hope this works out because I don't want to do a double move
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Postby Steamforger » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:22 am

Processing about 1200 LC 7.62 this week. That primer crimp is stout.

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Postby HTRN » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:29 am

Tomorrow off! :mrgreen:
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Postby Vonz90 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:26 pm

Well they took our offer, should be in the new place by Christmas. The new place is not the pile of garbage this house was when we moved in. Actually it has been well maintained for the most part.

Still, even though I like the new place and I think it is going to be a better overall situation- it was kind of nice to be done with house projects.

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Postby Weetabix » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:55 pm

I mostly use FB to keep up with what my kids are doing. FB sends emails regularly. Today, it said, "See who likes your Facebook page."

I don't give a crap who likes my Facebook page. I can't remember the last time I posted something there. :|
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Postby Greg » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:51 pm

Weetabix wrote:I mostly use FB to keep up with what my kids are doing. FB sends emails regularly. Today, it said, "See who likes your Facebook page."

I don't give a crap who likes my Facebook page. I can't remember the last time I posted something there. :|


I like FB. I use it as a valuable crutch.

I use it to keep in touch with all the people who I theoretically feel I should at least stay in some kind of touch with, but who I otherwise wouldn't actually keep in touch with because they're not close enough to me to be in regular phone/text/email contact.

That and there are a few local things I keep up on through their social media feeds, like the local minor league baseball team, custard shop, etc.

Of course FB has ambitions of its own. You can smack those down by being very strict about turning off notifications and such.
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Postby Greg » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:54 pm

As time goes by, I more and more strongly feel I ought to learn Python.
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Postby Weetabix » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:00 pm

Greg wrote:As time goes by, I more and more strongly feel I ought to learn Python.

I recently decided to try C because that's what the "experiments" that came with my Raspberry Pi starter kit have code for. Of course, they also have the Python code.

Why is Python better than C or C better than Python?

ETA: putting on my seldom used "take an interest in others" hat, Gee, Greg. Tell us about what has motivated this desire? :geek:
ETA2: That sounds sarcastic, but the sarcasm is directed at me, not you.
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Postby Netpackrat » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:46 pm

Weetabix wrote:
Greg wrote:As time goes by, I more and more strongly feel I ought to learn Python.

I recently decided to try C because that's what the "experiments" that came with my Raspberry Pi starter kit have code for. Of course, they also have the Python code.

Why is Python better than C or C better than Python?

ETA: putting on my seldom used "take an interest in others" hat, Gee, Greg. Tell us about what has motivated this desire? :geek:
ETA2: That sounds sarcastic, but the sarcasm is directed at me, not you.


I don't think he expected the Spanish Inquisition, Weet.
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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Postby Greg » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 pm

Weetabix wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.


I did, however, just recently buy a comfy chair.
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Weetabix wrote:
Greg wrote:As time goes by, I more and more strongly feel I ought to learn Python.

I recently decided to try C because that's what the "experiments" that came with my Raspberry Pi starter kit have code for. Of course, they also have the Python code.

Why is Python better than C or C better than Python?

ETA: putting on my seldom used "take an interest in others" hat, Gee, Greg. Tell us about what has motivated this desire? :geek:
ETA2: That sounds sarcastic, but the sarcasm is directed at me, not you.


C is a much lower level language, what you control with C is much closer to what the computer is actually doing.

So what you can do with 1 or 2 lines of Python code, you might need hundreds of lines of C code to do. The upside, for C, is that those hundreds of lines of C code are almost certainly going to be faster (possibly MUCH faster) than the 1 or 2 lines of Python.

That's the short version.

When computers were less powerful, everything was written in lower level languages, like C. Or even lower, like assembler, for when you REALLY need speed and efficiency.

Now that computers are so much more powerful, higher level languages like Python are more desirable. They make it much easier to get any particular thing coded and done, and they run fast enough. Mostly. This is very desirable for folks like sysadmins, who want to automate various things.

Operating system kernels and such, device drivers, things that work with hardware and need to be *fast* still tend to all be written in things like C. Or just programs intended to run on very small, weak, slow computers.

A systems programmer (someone working on the OS or its utilities, network infrastructure, etc) will still need C, or relatives.

A sysadmin or regular person can get by with a scripting language, of which Python is the leading candidate these days. (Used to be Perl, and before that shell. Those are still used. I can get by in either of those.)

As a sysadmin, evolving to keep up with the world as it currently is, knowing Python is *very* helpful. Many scripts you'll run into are written in it, many of the newer cooler tools use it, or at least integrate with it.

Oh I should add, around 1991 (or 2? 3? I forget exactly) or so when it was clear that engineering wasn't happening, a friend gave me a copy of THE book on C (K&R) and said, 'need a job, learn this'. I did in fact work through the entire book and learn a bit of C, but found it exquisitely painful. So painful in fact, I got a job selling books (many of them copies of K&R) instead of coding C, for 1/4 the money of a coding job. Then my inherent geeky problem solving skills set me on the path to accidental sysadminhood.

Anyway, short version of *that* is, unless you know you need to know C, I recommend learning Python instead.
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Postby Steamforger » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:47 pm

We watched this happen yesterday afternoon standing outside the office. Sky Dick

I hope the pilot isn't punished too badly :lol:

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Greg wrote:
Weetabix wrote:
Greg wrote:As time goes by, I more and more strongly feel I ought to learn Python.

I recently decided to try C because that's what the "experiments" that came with my Raspberry Pi starter kit have code for. Of course, they also have the Python code.

Why is Python better than C or C better than Python?

ETA: putting on my seldom used "take an interest in others" hat, Gee, Greg. Tell us about what has motivated this desire? :geek:
ETA2: That sounds sarcastic, but the sarcasm is directed at me, not you.


C is a much lower level language, what you control with C is much closer to what the computer is actually doing.

So what you can do with 1 or 2 lines of Python code, you might need hundreds of lines of C code to do. The upside, for C, is that those hundreds of lines of C code are almost certainly going to be faster (possibly MUCH faster) than the 1 or 2 lines of Python.

That's the short version.
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Anyway, short version of *that* is, unless you know you need to know C, I recommend learning Python instead.


To add just a little, with Python you both get (depending on platform) and can easily add a huge number of library packages that make it relatively easy to do a lot of things that might have to be written for C. Want to output PDF files? Excel spreadsheets? Control IO ports on the RPi? Run fancy-pants LED lighting? Connect a weather monitor? Do motion detection on the video feed from webcams? Thousands of different things that folks have pre-written libraries for; you include them, you can call the functions in the library, and they do the low level bit twiddling for you. Its possible there is support for some of these in C but it will be a small fraction of the support in Python

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Postby Netpackrat » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:58 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opin ... ml?src=twr

There is a common liberal argument that our present polarization is the result of constant partisan escalations on the right — the rise of Newt Gingrich, the steady Hannitization of right-wing media.

Some of this is true. But returning to the impeachment imbroglio made me think that in that case the most important escalators were the Democrats. They had an opportunity, with Al Gore waiting in the wings, to show a predator the door and establish some moral common ground for a polarizing country.

And what they did instead — turning their party into an accessory to Clinton’s appetites, shamelessly abandoning feminist principle, smearing victims and blithely ignoring his most credible accuser, all because Republicans funded the investigations and they’re prudes and it’s all just Sexual McCarthyism — feels in the cold clarity of hindsight like a great act of partisan deformation.

For which, it’s safe to say, we have all been amply punished since.


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Netpackrat wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opinion/sunday/what-if-ken-starr-was-right.html?src=twr

There is a common liberal argument that our present polarization is the result of constant partisan escalations on the right — the rise of Newt Gingrich, the steady Hannitization of right-wing media.

Some of this is true. But returning to the impeachment imbroglio made me think that in that case the most important escalators were the Democrats. They had an opportunity, with Al Gore waiting in the wings, to show a predator the door and establish some moral common ground for a polarizing country.

And what they did instead — turning their party into an accessory to Clinton’s appetites, shamelessly abandoning feminist principle, smearing victims and blithely ignoring his most credible accuser, all because Republicans funded the investigations and they’re prudes and it’s all just Sexual McCarthyism — feels in the cold clarity of hindsight like a great act of partisan deformation.

For which, it’s safe to say, we have all been amply punished since.


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OMG.

If that hit print in the New York Times, the jig is up. The purge is coming.
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Postby Rich » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:22 pm

Clinton at his worst was worth at least ten of AlGore.

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Rich wrote:Clinton at his worst was worth at least ten of AlGore.


Wow! Talk about damning with faint praise!
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Postby g-man » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:52 pm

For a number of (previous) administrations now, it has appeared that vice presidential running mate choices have been made in a self-preservatory manner. One look at the prospect of the Vice Pres being in charge likely stymied many a would be assassin. Or at least it's appeared that way to me.

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g-man wrote:For a number of administrations now, it has appeared that vice presidential running mate choices have been made in a self-preservatory manner. One look at the prospect of the Vice Pres being in charge likely stymied many a would be assassin. Or at least it's appeared that way to me.

What about this one? :mrgreen:
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Postby g-man » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:24 pm

Weetabix wrote:
g-man wrote:For a number of administrations now, it has appeared that vice presidential running mate choices have been made in a self-preservatory manner. One look at the prospect of the Vice Pres being in charge likely stymied many a would be assassin. Or at least it's appeared that way to me.

What about this one? :mrgreen:


I won't comment on the current administration, just like I tried to not comment on the previous administration when it was the current administration. Officers being politically agnostic and all that malarkey.

On that note, I saw some retarded meme the other day lamenting that saying that you don't want to talk about politics is just 'exerting cis-white-male privilege' or some other trivial crap. My posts to Twitter consist entirely of my astrophotos, because there are actually rules about getting into politics given my position. So it's actually a lack of that privilege on my part. As far as 'non-partisan' political issues on places like facebook? I've just stopped posting or commenting on posts about it because I'm tired of arguing with people over stuff we mutually can't change each other's opinions on.
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Postby Weetabix » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:24 pm

Ah. Forgot about that. Not trying to troll you or anything.

During the election, I kind of liked Pence more than I liked Trump. I kept wondering if Trump was trolling the nation, intending to resign once he'd been in for just a bit. :geek:
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Postby g-man » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:54 am

No worries.

In the spirit of this thread, now for something completely different...

I talked to a local gun shop counter guy on my lunch break one day last week. I can either put a retarded 'paddle grip' instead of the pistol grip on an AR, along with some other nonsense, and make a 'featureless' AR which is CA legal.

Or,

I could buy an M1A with a muzzle-break instead of a flash hider, and only keep 10rd mags, and have a fully functional battle rifle.

Or,

A CMP Garand, delivered to a CA FFL of course, with as many en-bloc clips of .30-06 as I can keep on hand.

Both of which, in the hands of a trained individual, should scare anybody with any sense about guns at least as much, if not moreso than a neutered poodle-shooter.
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Postby blackeagle603 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:41 pm

I've just gone to Kydex slipon "featureless" fin grips. Then pulled the bullet-buttons and pinned on a "featureless" muzzlebreak that I'd rather have than a standard flashhider anyway. Actually better off than before -- until they realize what foolishness they've wraught and pass some more GFW legislation.

Buying a rental property just across the line in Yuma is looking better and better as a spot to set up a secure storage location for no-CA compliant stuff -- like all my freeman standard cap mags. Maybe Tucson since just connected with some family there.
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