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Bridge Of Spies

Postby Aesop » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:20 am

I wasn't particularly planning to see this when the trailers came out, despite the people headlining it.
Cold War, defending spies, CIA/military screw-ups, dead history, blah blah blah.
But the reviews convinced me to give it another chance, so I caught it last night.

Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks are clearly the Joe Monatana-Jerry Rice combination of film-making.
If this flick isn't up for multiple Oscars next year - deservedly - I miss my guess.
Hanks carries this movie nearly single-handedly on his back and plants it in the end zone in a performance last seen by Gregory Peck in To Kill A Mockingbird.
And Spielberg is still taking every movie director alive to school, in every frame of this movie.
The care and craft to the littlest details demonstrate what's possible on a truly A-list production, and the story by Matt Charman and the Coen brothers weaves around the good and bad in our history without setting any straw men on fire, and still showcases everything that still continues to make America the greatest nation on earth.

Like my review of The Martian, it's almost like someone in Hollywood finally got the memo from the entire country to stop crapping on the home team, and give us stories we want to watch.
If this trend continues, being a left-wing jackass celebrity could get seriously out of fashion, even in Tinseltown.

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This movie isn't one minute too long, but at 2:21, I counsel a small soda and a large popcorn.


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Postby toad » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:59 am

If you can find it there is a biography of Francis Gary Powers. He was working for Lockheed as a test pilot at the time and they fired him when the book came out supposedly because it was critical of the CIA who was a big customer of Lockheed.
Powers regarded himself as a technical civilian contractor to the CIA trying to keep an aircraft that was constantly on the edge of stalling out at 70,000 feet. His attitude toward the poison pill was that it was optional not a requirement. It was interesting that Soviets shot down two of their own planes trying to get the U2. Powers put up with enhanced interrogation for two years by which time he figured what ever he knew would be obsolete.

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Postby HTRN » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:43 pm

Aesop wrote:Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks are clearly the Joe Monatana-Jerry Rice combination of film-making.

What is it with Alan Alda playing conservatives?
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby Aesop » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:02 am

Churchill was right.

And Alan Alda has finally left adolescence behind.
Just took him 50 years longer than most people.
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby Kommander » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:27 am

Did Alda actually go conservative or is he simply taking a few roles that are conservative. Perhaps he's having fun playing the "bad guy"?

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Postby Aesop » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:06 am

I don't think he left the Democrat party so much as the Democrat party left him. He's a 1950's liberal, not a 21st century frothing communist.
He's also 79 (80 in January), been married to the same woman for 58 years, and happy to be working at all given his age, let alone on an A-list movie.
It's not like he's going to be a doing a lot more of those.

By Hollywood standards he's a far right-winger.

Not to mention his part in this flick is about as substantial and pivotal as Harrison Ford's was in Apocalypse Now.
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Postby First Shirt » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:40 am

Been married to the same woman for 58 years??

I hereby retract the nasty things I've said about him for all these years.

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Postby skb12172 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:05 pm

Hell, a few of us would qualify as 1950s Liberals. I know I would.
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Postby HTRN » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:07 pm

Kommander wrote:Did Alda actually go conservative or is he simply taking a few roles that are conservative. Perhaps he's having fun playing the "bad guy"?


The latter. I saw him on one of those godawful daytime shows recently, and he was running his mouth about socialism in all but name.
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby BDK » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:52 pm

skb12172 wrote:Hell, a few of us would qualify as 1950s Liberals. I know I would.



I really doubt you'd be pro-Soviet.

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Postby skb12172 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:27 pm

Would that be a requirement?
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby BDK » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:00 am

Pretty much. FDR was farther left than Obama. The "liberal" movement in the 50s, were pretty much Communist agents, or damn close to it.

Which of their policies do you think you'd support?

The Civil Rights Act stuff came from the GOP/libertarian side

This was when the Communists were given the nuke because they traitors wanted to "balance" the US - admittedly, the term military-industrial complex was invented by Eisenhower to describe the system promulgated by FDR, and first implemented by Wilson.

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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby dfwmtx » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:27 pm

Hell, these days I'm almost fully convinced FDR knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor and let it happen on purpose so he could drag isolationist America into the war.
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby Langenator » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:37 pm

dfwmtx wrote:Hell, these days I'm almost fully convinced FDR knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor and let it happen on purpose so he could drag isolationist America into the war.


They expected an attack - they just expected it to come in the Philippines, not Hawaii. Most importantly, because U.S. intelligence didn't know that the IJN had fast oilers and underway refueling capability to allow them to sail their carriers to Hawaii to launch the strike. http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/26430.html

On another topic, perhaps we don't have any 50s liberals on this forum, but do we have any who would be JFK Democrats? (I'm pretty sure JFK would be tossed out of the current Dem party on his ear.)
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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby Jericho941 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:57 am

BDK wrote:Pretty much. FDR was farther left than Obama. The "liberal" movement in the 50s, were pretty much Communist agents, or damn close to it.

Which of their policies do you think you'd support?

The Civil Rights Act stuff came from the GOP/libertarian side

This was when the Communists were given the nuke because they traitors wanted to "balance" the US - admittedly, the term military-industrial complex was invented by Eisenhower to describe the system promulgated by FDR, and first implemented by Wilson.

To be fair, the term was "1950s liberal," not "1950s Democrat."

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Re: Bridge Of Spies

Postby Greg » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:12 am

Jericho941 wrote:
BDK wrote:Pretty much. FDR was farther left than Obama. The "liberal" movement in the 50s, were pretty much Communist agents, or damn close to it.

Which of their policies do you think you'd support?

The Civil Rights Act stuff came from the GOP/libertarian side

This was when the Communists were given the nuke because they traitors wanted to "balance" the US - admittedly, the term military-industrial complex was invented by Eisenhower to describe the system promulgated by FDR, and first implemented by Wilson.

To be fair, the term was "1950s liberal," not "1950s Democrat."


There were quite a number of firmly loyal, patriotic Americans in both categories. That was quite obviously true even into the 70's or 80's. Problem was, both categories were hopelessly infiltrated by those who weren't, and the ones who weren't were too influential to even attempt to root out.

Yeah FDR was a special case. His Presidency was basically a coup, and the supporting power structure he put in place (our Ivy League overlords) unfortunately outlived him.

Of course FDR's Ivy League coup was just the finish to what the never-sufficiently-to-be-damned Woodrow Wilson started. And what 2dub (tm) started was only made possible by our involvement in WW1.
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