How do we steer the culture back to Liberty?

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...and sarcasm. Don't forget the sarcasm.
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Vonz90 wrote:Start randomly killing people who oppose liberty maybe?
Ah, the oppress those that disagree with me policy of liberty.
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Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:Start randomly killing people who oppose liberty maybe?
Ah, the oppress those that disagree with me policy of liberty.
Hey, why not? After all it worked for.... give me a minute...
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Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:Start randomly killing people who oppose liberty maybe?
Ah, the oppress those that disagree with me policy of liberty.

While Vonz is likely simply expressing frustration, he's not far off on how I thing things will have to happen, or at least how it's going to look to some. Totalitarianism never gives up without bloodshed. I see a civil war coming in this country, and it's going to make the first civil war look tame.
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Vonz90 wrote:Start randomly killing people who oppose liberty maybe?
That's hardly random.
kapikui wrote: While Vonz is likely simply expressing frustration, he's not far off on how I thing things will have to happen, or at least how it's going to look to some. Totalitarianism never gives up without bloodshed. I see a civil war coming in this country, and it's going to make the first civil war look tame.
Honestly, I think it is somewhat more likely that socialism will run out of other people's money to spend long before we get around to fighting a civil war over liberty. The "taker" class will be hardest hit by the resulting die-off, however, so it should have much the same effect.
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kapikui wrote:
Yogimus wrote:
Vonz90 wrote:Start randomly killing people who oppose liberty maybe?
Ah, the oppress those that disagree with me policy of liberty.

While Vonz is likely simply expressing frustration, he's not far off on how I thing things will have to happen, or at least how it's going to look to some. Totalitarianism never gives up without bloodshed. I see a civil war coming in this country, and it's going to make the first civil war look tame.
Civil war? Against who exactly? What army? Show me where there is a clear division into two factions with military forces on either side. Find me a civil war that ever happened without it. We're armed, will they be? Do we intend to start that lopsided a war? Count me out.

No, of course, *we* won't start it, they will. Conservatives are fixed on the idea of a "great reckoning", which seems to stem from their Christian belief (at least as it manifests itself in the U.S.) This of course allows them (some would say requires them) to sit back and let nature or God or something take its course.

It's the lazy man's way out. It's the way out when one is not quite confident in what one believes, so one won't ultimately stick their neck out for it. It's the timid way, when one is too wimpy to face an opponent, and instead expects (more hopes), he'll drive himself off into the ditch in the end. It's ultimately the way of submission.

It's what makes the market for plastic tubes to bury guns, expecting that some rosy, sun-shiny day in a brighter future, we'll dig them back up and tell our grandkids about how fate or God or economics swept away those bad people.

You want to know why Leftist ideas survive? They damn well don't behave this way.
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Not a single dictatorship or totalitarian government ever rose without the promise of liberty and freedoms.
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There's a gun and ammunition
Just inside the doorway
Use it only in emergency
Better you should pray to God
The father and the spirit
Will guide you and protect from up here

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Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For someday sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still

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Dub_James wrote: No, of course, *we* won't start it, they will. Conservatives are fixed on the idea of a "great reckoning", which seems to stem from their Christian belief (at least as it manifests itself in the U.S.) This of course allows them (some would say requires them) to sit back and let nature or God or something take its course.
That's not why we won't start it. We won't start it, because we are the good guys.
It's the lazy man's way out. It's the way out when one is not quite confident in what one believes, so one won't ultimately stick their neck out for it. It's the timid way, when one is too wimpy to face an opponent, and instead expects (more hopes), he'll drive himself off into the ditch in the end. It's ultimately the way of submission.
I don't concur, necessarily. While there may come a time when all good men must come to the aid of their country, the situation right now, is those who stick their necks out are nearly certain to have their heads lopped off... Or at least be demonized not only by the other side, but also plenty who are nominally on our own. What happens in places like CT with the non-compliance movement may be the spark that changes the current paradigm, but for now, the smart money is to stay out of jail/the ground, so as to retain the freedom to act when it matters. And concentrate on raising good families so that it isn't all for naught when it does happen.
It's what makes the market for plastic tubes to bury guns, expecting that some rosy, sun-shiny day in a brighter future, we'll dig them back up and tell our grandkids about how fate or God or economics swept away those bad people.
There's nothing at all wrong with putting a little something away for a rainy day, and any number of good reasons to do so.
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You ever consider that this is what liberty looks like?
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