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Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:21 pm

Anyone else gone down this rabbit hole?

Shift work? Jet lag? This changes everything (maybe).

I've been reading the likes of Mark Sisson and Dave Asprey and playing with yellow and red lights and UV "blue" blocking gadgets that past month or so. Am seeing improvements in sleep duration and quality -- not that mine was so bad, but post stroke I've gotten real interested in sleep (starting with dialing in my CPAP better).
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Re: Light hacking

Postby Cobar » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:16 pm

Link is dead

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Re: Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:21 pm

Try the link now. "Re-Timer"

Light therapy (or phototherapy) involves exposure to specific wavelengths of light for a prescribed amount of time at a specific time of day.
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Re: Light hacking

Postby Old Grafton » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:13 pm

I sleep best after being exposed to Coors Light or LaBatt's Blue Light.
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Postby MarkD » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:53 pm

I don't know about this particular product, but two other things I've heard of:

A former GF had Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), where during the winter she just wanted to hibernate, was tired and depressed all the time, etc. She got a sunlamp and spend time in front of it daily, and that seemed to make her (a little) less nuts.

There are apps for phones and tablets that will shift the color of the light emitted by the screen based on time of day, the idea being that a more blue/green light tends to wake you up and a more red light makes you tired,so if you use your phone before bed the color of the light may impede your sleep.

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Re: Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:44 pm

yep, I've got f.lux and twilight running (on PC and android devices respectively).
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Re: Light hacking

Postby Cobar » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:43 pm

Not messed with anything like that, other than knowing that pitch black makes me sleep better.

I wonder how that stuff would end up effecting me, being red/green color deficient.

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Re: Light hacking

Postby Netpackrat » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:55 pm

Meh. I sleep better in the winter because there is less light.
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Re: Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:14 am

There's the sleep aspect and setting/resetting after travel or shift change. It's also (just as interesting) about mitochondria and ATP production -- energy.

According to Wunsch, as little as one-third of the energy your body requires for maintaining the thermal equilibrium comes from the food you eat. The electrons transferred from the food, primarily the fats and the carbohydrates, are ultimately transferred to oxygen and generate ATP. The more near infrared you get, the less nutritional energy is required for maintaining thermal homeostasis.

That said, a differentiation is in order. Most of the METABOLICALLY USED energy does come from food. But there is a thermodynamic aspect to it as well. Maintaining a normal body temperature (37 degrees C or 98.6 degrees F) involves two mechanisms: Energy production in your mitochondria from food, and photonic energy (near-infrared radiation from sunlight and incandescent light bulbs) that is able to penetrate deeply into your tissue, even through clothing.

"The radiation can enter your body and then be transformed into longer wavelengths in the infrared part. They are very important for supporting the temperature level, the thermal energy level, of our body which is … a very crucial aspect. A lot of energy comes in the form of radiation and this is supporting our thermal balance," Wunsch explains.

The key take-home message here is that your body's energy production involves not just food intake. You also need exposure to certain wavelengths of light in order for your metabolism to function optimally. This is yet another reason why sun exposure is so vitally important for optimal health.



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Re: Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:17 am

There's been a lot of talk about low T on this board over the years.

Turn up the lights anyone?
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Re: Light hacking

Postby evan price » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:57 am

F.lux on my pc worked for 3rd shift... Lot less sleeping problems during the day. Also better diet more exercise and being outside more when i rotate to dayshift midweek. Sun exposure is good in small qtys.
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Re: Light hacking

Postby blackeagle603 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:12 am

I've gone to blue blocking computer glasses all the time (work and home) along with f.lux.

Gooseneck lamp at my home computer has a red bulb in it now. "Darken Ship! Make Darken Ship reports to CCS."
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Re: Light hacking

Postby SoupOrMan » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:24 am

The street lamp across the street from my bedroom went from mercury vapor to LED. Now it's very close to daylight pouring into my room at all hours of darkness. I'm going to have to get another army blanket or similar to hang up in my front bedroom window to block out the light that is getting through my supposed blackout curtains. (Hanging a blanket up to block more light is apparently scandalous to women, or at least the ones in my family.) Between total darkness and a CPAP I should be able to get some sleep.
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Postby HTRN » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:01 pm

Forget the army banket, and use blackout film
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Re: Light hacking

Postby SoupOrMan » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:13 pm

Which is cheaper?
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Re: Light hacking

Postby First Shirt » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:50 pm

Aluminum foil.
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Re: Light hacking

Postby MarkD » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:39 pm

First Shirt wrote:Aluminum foil.


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Re: Light hacking

Postby randy » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:42 am

First Shirt wrote:Aluminum foil.


It's certainly the local choice of window coverings to shield their meth labs :mrgreen:
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Re: Light hacking

Postby First Shirt » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:52 am

randy wrote:
First Shirt wrote:Aluminum foil.


It's certainly the local choice of window coverings to shield their meth labs :mrgreen:


I guess ours are a little more upscale. They use mylar space blankets.
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