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type while standing?

Postby toad » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:34 am

I've developed a case of numb behind by sitting in front my computer. I looked at "ergo" chairs and they want way to much money for them, to I've noticed a couple of articles on standing and typing so I've put a box on my computer table and I'm going to try that for a while.
I was wondering if any of the posters here have tried that and what their results were.

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Re: type while standing?

Postby Steamforger » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:34 am

Two of my supervisors used a desk that can raise or lower as they see fit. Touch of the up or down button and all that. They seem to like them quite a bit.

Something very similar to this

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Re: type while standing?

Postby Erik » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:10 pm

I have seen a lot of people do it, colleagues and others. I also know some companies that have standing stations for work. I havent done it myself for any extended time, but those I have asked says it really helps their backs.

They have the desks that can be raised and lowered, and use them to both be able to sit and stand, and switch positions several times a day.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Greg » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:14 pm

Standing desks are very trendy right now. The population of people who've switched to standing desks is still relatively small, but like vegans and pilots they seem more than willing to talk about how awesome they are.

Just look online.

Personally I think anyone who's ever worked a job that required standing for long periods would laugh this shit out of the room. Just get up and take a short walk every hour or two.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Aesop » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:01 pm

Baptists aren't allowed to type standing up, because it could lead to dancing.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Dub_James » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:28 pm

Aesop wrote:Baptists aren't allowed to type standing up, because it could lead to dancing.


Just one small wrist flex away from the dreaded.... Jazz Hands.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:32 am

I switched to a standup desk last July. There's tricks to it, building endurance to make a full day, learning to stand well/in a constructive way instead of sloppy. Like it in my socks or 5-Fingers with balls and such on the floor to work my feet as a stand.

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Re: type while standing?

Postby toad » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:56 am

It is kind of a catch 22 for me. I need to put in more time on my feet to make my bones stronger but at the same time deal with back pain, hip pain, arthritis and such. I going to try to build up to 4 hours and at the same time increase my typing speed. If I can get up to at least a reliable accurate 60 wpm I could get part time data entry work. I'm going to have to spring for a better keyboard than the one on this lap top, it is too narrow for me, I have to reach around my gut and crank my hands too much, and the ten key pad doesn't give me enough feel.

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Postby MarkD » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:44 pm

I can't resist a story from my early days in the computer field.

It seems an employee at a company had an unusual problem. If he sat down at his computer, he could type in his password wit no problem. If he stood up in front of the computer, he got an "incorrect password" error. The reason? Two of his keycaps were reversed. When he sat down he touch-typed, so hit the correct key with the incorrect keycap. When standing he did a hunt-and-peck, hit the correct key-cap which was on top of the wrong key.

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Re: type while standing?

Postby Odahi » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:48 pm

One of the young ladies at work has a platform on her existing desk that raises or lowers with the touch of a lever. It's become trendy "up the hill," in the fancy offices. I would never be able to do it, my back will hurt for a full day if I stand for more than about 20 minutes. If it works for you, then great. My immediate supervisor is very small in stature, and has a ball chair. The regular chairs didn't go low enough to keep the front edge of the seat from causing pain in the backs of her thighs. My only objection to the stools in my lab is that they randomly will sink all the way down while occupied, or randomly raise to maximum height when not occupied. I can find a comfortable working height, but it won't last long. Oh well, it's an easy fix.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:42 pm

try standing pigeon toed, quads locked, abs relaxed/belly breathing. Work on distributing weight evenly across feet; from foot to foot, and within each foot.

Periodically
1) reset shoulders: roll first one shoulder up, then back, sliding scapula back and in toward spine. Then the other shoulder & scapula.

2) Extend upright: imagine a string from top of your head pulling in traction straight to ceiling. Start at sacrum and work up a segment at a time relaxing/opening up segments of spine up in a line to that string pulling straight up to ceiling.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Durham68 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:15 pm

Dub_James wrote:
Aesop wrote:Baptists aren't allowed to type standing up, because it could lead to dancing.


Just one small wrist flex away from the dreaded.... Jazz Hands.


Then comes the card playing :o

We have articulating desks that raise and lower using an electric motor. I liked it at first, but found that all the things that ache from sitting, ache even more from standing more than a few minutes. Bad posture is bad posture. I took a few reports down to the gym to see what it might be like to work while walking on the treadmill. I liked it and am pretty close to buying a walking treadmill deck for my work station. I find walking far more tolerable than standing. The typing is going to take some getting used to.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby blackeagle603 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:33 pm

Sitting is the root of many (most?) posture problems. That whole hip flexor thing... If you can't stand comfortably for long, don't just avoid standing!!!

Get to work on improving posture and extending your ability to stand.

Try the pigeon toed standing. I can explain wall stork later if you want when I have more time.

Change your paradigm. As a starting point to that end, it is hard to beat anything written by Pete Egoscue. I'd recommend his "Pain free... " book as most direct path.

Jill Miller's Yoga Tuneup and Roll Model are great too.
Gokhale Method is useful but too ishy squishy hippy-ish bay area for me to be real committed to -- but have gleaned some good stuff from her.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Greg » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:56 pm

Pretty sure everyone finds walking more comfortable than standing. Walking naturally assists the circulation, standing does the opposite.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby Windy Wilson » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:44 pm

Marko Kloos, of the blog "The Munchkin Wrangler" wrote extensively about his efforts to have a desk for standing about a year ago.
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Re: type while standing?

Postby BDK » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:51 pm

I, regularly, spend most of the day standing/walking - my back hurts if I don't - focusing on keeping tension in my lower abdomen - from my naval down, helps me - but that could just be due to my posture issues

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Re: type while standing?

Postby blackeagle603 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:12 pm

yep, that's a compensation for hip flexor dysfunction, The primary ones being the illiacus and psoas.

Work on opening those up and activating them for a week or so and see if you notice any changes start. (hint: you should and will then prolly choose to make it a habit)

Try couch stretch with contract and relax (5 sec on/10 sec off) of hipflexors while relaxing belly and diaphragm breathing. The diaphragm is a big muscle and interacts with the hip flexors, QL and all that "core" stuff. The contract and relax is a PNF trick for retraining your muscles.

Spend a couple minutes a side, several times a day.


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Re: type while standing?

Postby toad » Sat May 16, 2015 7:48 pm

Well it is working for me sorta. I have to remember to do "the way of the horse stance." I need to elevate the screen a bit more but my hands are at the right height for typing. To bad the screen on this Dell lap top is not detachable. Right now I can work for about 48 minutes before I have to go sit down. I've noticed some improvement though.


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