Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

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Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby Precision » Sat May 06, 2017 12:43 am

Since I have (choose) to accompany the Girlfriend to an NRA taping in LA, I need to know the rule for self defense in CA and LA specifically.

A buddy told me any folder with a blade shorter than 3.0 inches is fine. Need to confirm that.

How about fixed blades open carry?

Anything else?

Standards for self defense use of said items?

And yes I said Girlfriend. She is a widow. Her husband got murdered 8 years ago by someone who was stalking her. Google her and her story. Nikki Goeser. So far we make a great couple, not the least of which is we know the other still loves their late spouse and always will.
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby skb12172 » Sun May 07, 2017 5:05 am

I didn't know you were dating anyone. Congratulations.

Edit: Googled her. Quite a story. It appears that she and I have a preference for revolvers in common. Obviously, a woman of great taste and intelligence. :D
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Postby Kommander » Sun May 07, 2017 5:42 am

Carrying for the explicit purpose as a weapon is not allowed. You can carry a sheath knife openly on a belt but be prepared for some extra attention. Since you can carry any size non automatic folder you want I would go that route and its what I do.

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Postby Precision » Wed May 10, 2017 1:24 am

When I googled it, the internet says LA county has a 3 inch blade maximum.

It also appears that the GF is having an issue with having me as the BF (or something). A convoluted tale, but I no longer need to go to LA as someone has put it in her head that we are moving too quickly. This despite the NRA paying for me to go (at her request) and the flight leaving tomorrow... Oh the joys of dating women.

But if you date logical people (men) you are gay, so... We will see how it turns out over the next few weeks. She is awesome minus this (little) issue. We will see how little it ends up being. sigh.
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby skb12172 » Wed May 10, 2017 1:27 am

Just make sure you stand up for your dignity and your needs. Otherwise, you look weak, she won't respect you, and she'll leave anyway.
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Postby Precision » Wed May 10, 2017 9:43 am

Yeah, it, like all relationships gets complicated. Part of the problem is I am too hard and too rigid (a known issue about my personality). But we made up. Still not going to LA, which is a mixed curse / blessing.

We will see long term, but I really like this one. Running 85 /15 and that is a pretty damn good mix, not to mention it is early and intense so there are bound to be teething issues.
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby BDK » Wed May 10, 2017 12:02 pm

A) Women will sabotage each other's relationships for sport - which you have to know at this point.

B) You may both be prone to latch on. My friend's widow certainly felt that way for a few years.

C) A chef being rigid and demanding? I've never heard of such a thing :o

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Postby Precision » Wed May 10, 2017 3:10 pm

BDK wrote:A) Women will sabotage each other's relationships for sport - which you have to know at this point.


yeah, this one is being sabotaged by an ex (hers), but we are working past it.

BDK wrote:B) You may both be prone to latch on. My friend's widow certainly felt that way for a few years.


There is some truth here. There is also a lot of gold here if we can properly see the gold to dross ratio

BDK wrote:C) A chef being rigid and demanding? I've never heard of such a thing :o


Thanks, that made me LAUGH. And I don't resemble that ... almost completely.
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby skb12172 » Wed May 10, 2017 5:15 pm

Why is her ex even a factor??? He should be a non-player, non-issue in your relationship.

I will say that in the posts where you have described your romantic activities, you come across as a Nice Guy. That is death with modern women. They will use and abuse you mercilessly.

Here, this might help. At the least, it will be food for thought.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-dick-move
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby HTRN » Thu May 11, 2017 12:42 am

BDK wrote: A chef being rigid and demanding? I've never heard of such a thing :o

Its borderline ridiculous :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby Jericho941 » Thu May 11, 2017 5:33 am

skb12172 wrote:Why is her ex even a factor??? He should be a non-player, non-issue in your relationship.


Without knowing the specifics, all I can say is that sometimes people break up amicably and stay friends. Friends look out for each other. I don't think it's improbable that "wait, you've known this guy how long? And you want to take trips together?" could be spoken by a male or female friend without ill intent.

I will say that in the posts where you have described your romantic activities, you come across as a Nice Guy. That is death with modern women. They will use and abuse you mercilessly.


...a Nice Guy(tm) is a guy who thinks that he deserves sex/a romantic relationship for showing basic civility. Women hate that... and I've never read any of that into any Precision post I've seen. He seems more than capable of standing up for himself.

Here, this might help. At the least, it will be food for thought.


...okay, real talk.

Linking someone to Roosh during a rough patch with a lady is fucking toxic. I don't know why you think it would be constructive to link to a screed from that miserable pervert. His post is basically a paint-by-numbers guide to making sure your relationship is as petty, miserable, and hopefully short-lived as possible. Paranoia and depredation writ between the sheets.

I would never, ever want to share a relationship, let alone a house, with someone I had to browbeat into submission in a mutually abusive game of "dick move" chicken. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I don't think anyone without a huge power exchange kink would be able to make that work in anything approaching a healthy manner.

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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby Netpackrat » Thu May 11, 2017 8:30 am

Jericho941 wrote:Linking someone to Roosh during a rough patch with a lady is fucking toxic. I don't know why you think it would be constructive to link to a screed from that miserable pervert.


I'd never heard of that guy but you made me look... He seems to be somewhat of a shithead.
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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby skb12172 » Thu May 11, 2017 10:48 am

Fine, he can do it his way with the ex boyfriend calling the shots. I'm sure that will work out wonderfully. I wish him luck.

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Re: Heading to LA (no, not the one with New Orleans in it).

Postby Precision » Fri May 12, 2017 1:53 am

guys on both sides,

thanks for coming to my defense. The thing about my personality is I am extremely dominant in relationships. Mostly the sexual component;but it bleeds over. Sometimes that gets me in trouble.

The ex is a beta who is beta-ing very hard and creating short term havoc. He did his thing. She blocked him from being able to communicate with her, but I told her, she would eventually get in touch with him as he was very intentionally attempting to hit a nerve. I told her that he would start more shit and direct it through their mutual friends / acquaintances. Exactly that happened and she blew a gasket as she knew someone was lying, but not who.

He used the infuriate her gambit and impuned me with almost truths and subtle loaded questions. It worked, she got super angry and melted down on everyone involved. When she calmed down, she realized, I had not only predicted the course of events, but the reason why, how she would react ... One simple question set her straight. "If I could predict all that, don't you think if I was the liar, I would have just done different things and avoided the whole mess?"

Huge mental recalibration gap, then "oh, I have been an ass to you."

Yup.

For the record, I am a reasonable guy. The more I like the woman, the more reasonable I can be. But, under no circumstances am I a "nice guy".

That being said, I think she wishes she had listened and we were both in LA right now. But it is good in that it gives her time to process and to look at what she gave up by playing the beta's game. Next go round, I don't think she will be so easily provoked and I think the beta will not enjoy the outcome.
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