taking a minor to shoot

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mekender
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Re: taking a minor to shoot

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well, as a father my plan has been to be able to start teaching youth safety courses by next spring... there is no one anywhere near that does it, and i think that is a travesty... im already on target to get rifle and shotgun instructor certified too... should get certified to teach CCH in about feb..
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I want you to do this; it's exactly what we all should be doing. I just think that if a participant is under 18, then he/she must have a parent or legal guardian present for the duration and within sight for the duration.
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I take two girls (14 and 16) to the range. However, I know them and their moms very well (the girls call me "uncle"). The moms sometimes come and sometimes don't.

However, if I didn't know the kid(s) and parent(s) very well, I would be hesitant to take anyone under 18 to the range. All it takes is an accusation...
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The "Virginia Gun Owners Guide" has a paragraph concerning this.
The law for parents to remember nowadays is that, any time your child goes shooting with or without you, the child must carry written permission from you, even if you're with your child, to receive or have a gun or go shooting. That's now required by federal law 18 USC 922 (x)
I've made an attempt to find the specific federal code, but I can't find it.
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(x)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or
otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has
reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile -
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to
knowingly possess -
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

(3) This subsection does not apply to -
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a
juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition
by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and
used by the juvenile -
(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or
farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile
(or on property used for ranching or farming at which the
juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee,
is performing activities related to the operation of the farm
or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction
in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile's parent
or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local
law from possessing a firearm, except -
(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded
handgun in a locked container directly from the place of
transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause
(i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of
that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly
from the place at which such an activity took place to the
transferor; or
(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as
described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a
handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the
juvenile's parent or legal guardian and at the direction of
an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law
from possessing a firearm;

(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the
juvenile's possession at all times when a handgun is in the
possession of the juvenile; and

(iv) in accordance with State and local law;
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I built a range in the basement for the girls to practice their 10M air rifle and pistol...they have friends come over and they want to try the guns out...my girls give them a brief safety course and let them try a few shots from a low velocity single shot target gun (High velocity couldn't be loaned to anyone)...

If the person shooting shows any signs of teenage stupidity then that is the last time they are invited to the house (to shoot) and it's the girls who decide not me...

If they want to continue shooting they have to buy safety glasses, hearing protection, pellets and must bring from home a signed release from their parents--both, even if divorced (unless not living in the area)...It's a very basic form that my lawyer drew up from the ones we signed for the pistol, rifle and shotgun clubs the girls belong to but geared to Canadian Law and gun storage etc.

I/We hereby give permission for our son/daughter to shoot target air pistol and rifle at the domicile of.....at.........address. We herby release .........of any responsibility for accidents etc. and if an air handgun or rifle is purchased it can be stored in the safe at the above residence...

Like that but with more legalese bullcrap put in so he (my lawyer) could justify his outrageous fee ($1.00)...Oh, and it has to be notarized as well and as the lawyer is living about 20 houses away, he gets to sign lots of them including for his kids...

There is also one for adults as well because lots of the parents will shoot field target with the kids on the week-ends...

It would show the child’s parent(s) that you are responsible and attentive to the kids needs--also find out about any allergies in advance--that you are law abiding and forthright and it gives you the permission needed just in case...

If I travel with my daughter(s) across the border I have to have a signed and notarized permission form from my wife because I might be abducting the children and selling them into white slavery or something...It irks me that she doesn’t!

I imagine the Mann Act hasn't been removed from the books yet?
There is a certain type of mentality that thinks if you make certain inanimate objects illegal their criminal misuse will disappear!

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I nixxed the idea, mainly because i am a certified instructor and the shooting was going to be happening on a range that is publically owned... so no insurance is held on the property except for the USFS...

i could get a permission slip easy, but couldnt get around the no insurance problem...

so i invited his dad too, his dad is a shooter... he will be getting back to me on that one...
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Hope you can work something out. The more of the youth we get involved, the better.
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He's seventeen, why not wait until the shooter is Eighteen, or is that too close to his ship out date?
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