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Postby mekender » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:30 am

ok ive heard the term a lot but have no idea what it means for sure.

i have suspicions as to what it is but am not sure

what is stoning?
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Re: stoning?

Postby Mud_Dog » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:34 am

mekender wrote:ok ive heard the term a lot but have no idea what it means for sure.

i have suspicions as to what it is but am not sure

what is stoning?


As in the biblical sense? People circle around the person to be stoned and throw rocks until that person dies. This is sometimes done in a pit or depression so the person has less of a chance of escaping. It is not a pleasant way to go from what I've heard.
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Postby mekender » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:36 am

Mud_Dog wrote:
mekender wrote:ok ive heard the term a lot but have no idea what it means for sure.

i have suspicions as to what it is but am not sure

what is stoning?


As in the biblical sense? People circle around the person to be stoned and throw rocks until that person dies. This is sometimes done in a pit or depression so the person has less of a chance of escaping. It is not a pleasant way to go from what I've heard.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

since this is a gun forum, it would stand to reason that the question would be gun related
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Re: stoning?

Postby mekender » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:38 am

erik i saw your reply before you deleted it... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: stoning?

Postby Mud_Dog » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:46 am

mekender wrote:
Mud_Dog wrote:
mekender wrote:ok ive heard the term a lot but have no idea what it means for sure.

i have suspicions as to what it is but am not sure

what is stoning?


As in the biblical sense? People circle around the person to be stoned and throw rocks until that person dies. This is sometimes done in a pit or depression so the person has less of a chance of escaping. It is not a pleasant way to go from what I've heard.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

since this is a gun forum, it would stand to reason that the question would be gun related


Bah, where's my brain tonight? (I'm a damn gunsmith for cryin' out loud!) :oops:

Basically it's like filing, only done with smooth stones. Stoning is not for removing metal though(at least not large amounts of it), only to smooth out surfaces. The stones come in different grits, depending on how smooth you want it. Think of it like sharpening a knife, you're getting those edges all cleaned up and uniform.

In stoning you want to remove as little amount of metal possible while keeping the surface flat to give it that clean surface. This reduces any drag that would occur if said part was only machined, like most parts you find in modern firearms.

Is that a better answer?

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Re: stoning?

Postby Erik » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:46 am

mekender wrote:erik i saw your reply before you deleted it... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, I figured. :)
Well, it did seem to make the most sense when I read it too... :oops:

But I went googling, and it seems that stoning in a gun sense means applying a stone to the internal components, hammer and trigger, to make the trigger lighter. It's a trigger job technique, from what I can tell.
You can google 'stoning angle' and 'stoning fixture' for a bit more info.
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Re: stoning?

Postby Erik » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:48 am

ok, guess I was too late with the answer again, but I wont bother delete that one.

btw, in my defense, I'm no gunsmith, and it's 02.45AM here :)
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Re: stoning?

Postby Mud_Dog » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:51 am

Here's some stones for reference: Linky
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Re: stoning?

Postby randy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:54 am

...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".

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Postby Erik » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:57 am

randy wrote:Jeh**ah!

:lol:
Yeah, that was my first thought too
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Re: stoning?

Postby Combat Controller » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:00 am

I thought it was what Obama's staff did before every speech?
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Postby SoupOrMan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:07 pm

Pass the Hope and Change to the left-hand side?
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Re: stoning?

Postby Dub_James » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:39 pm

Erik wrote:
randy wrote:Jeh**ah!

:lol:
Yeah, that was my first thought too


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Postby workinwifdakids » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:57 am

It's like hot-boxing, but without the attendee's consent.
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Re: stoning?

Postby mekender » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:14 am

boy you guys are a real piece of work arent ya?
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Re: stoning?

Postby Frankingun » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:18 pm

Back on topic: It's usually used to smooth out trigger sear surfaces. Just be careful with cast and MIM parts - they tend to have a hard, thin surface, and a squishy interior.

Kinda like some politicians. :evil: Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Re: stoning?

Postby DwightG » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:48 pm

Frankingun wrote:Back on topic: It's usually used to smooth out trigger sear surfaces. Just be careful with cast and MIM parts - they tend to have a hard, thin surface, and a squishy interior.

That can be the case with any case-hardened / carburized part regardless of whether cast, MIM, or wrought material. The heat treating process in case hardening involves heating and soaking the part in a carbon-rich environment (either gaseous or salt) in order to create a layer of high carbon steel on the surface of a lower carbon steel. Carbon content causes hardenability and the longer they soak the part, the deeper (to a point) the carbon goes. Then when the part is quenched and tempered, the high carbon surface gets hard while the core stays ductile and tough, relatively speaking, depending on what the base steel is. Taking off .001 or .002" of material by stoning would be more than necessary to smooth up a surface (unless it's really ugly to begin with) and unlikely to go through the case of a properly cased part although it's not hard to go too deep on a thinly cased part if you're rounding off corners.


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